If you want it to be direct, specific, and self documenting, I’d suggest 
“Address Replacement Function”. Then verbalize it by saying casually “ARFing 
the packet”. 

Dino

> On Mar 23, 2018, at 10:36 AM, Tom Herbert <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:53 AM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> ILA-NAT-GW, or Locator-Rewrite Function ,,,should all work I guess.
>> 
> Sri,
> 
> I still like the term 'address transformation'. The difference between
> transformation and translation is that no information is lost in
> transformation (pointed out by Mark Smith on ila list) whereas
> translations may be imperfect. A transformation is always reversible
> and must be reversed before delivery to the final destination.
> 
> Tom
> 
>> Sri
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/20/18, 4:42 AM, "Marco Liebsch" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What about naming it nicely locator re-writing? Which is what it does and
>>> community reacts differently
>>> on certain terms such as NAT..
>>> 
>>> marco
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dmm [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sri Gundavelli
>>> (sgundave)
>>> Sent: Dienstag, 20. März 2018 12:40
>>> To: Tom Herbert; Lyle Bertz
>>> Cc: dmm
>>> Subject: Re: [DMM] draft-bogineni-dmm-optimized-mobile-user-plane-00
>>> 
>>> But, in any case, NAT is not such a bad word, its just that it pushed
>>> IPv6 deployments out by 20 years.
>>> 
>>> Sri
>>> 
>>> On 3/20/18, 4:37 AM, "dmm on behalf of Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)"
>>> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Tom:
>>>> 
>>>>> ILA is not NAT! :-)
>>>> 
>>>> As seen from the end point, I agree ILA is not NAT. But, that the
>>>> function that is needed at two places where you do translation of the
>>>> addresses from SIR to LOCATOR, or LOCATOR to SIR is a NAT function, and
>>>> you have a mapping state similar to NAT state. That¹s a NAT :-)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sri
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/20/18, 4:29 AM, "dmm on behalf of Tom Herbert"
>>>> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 3:57 AM, Lyle Bertz <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> We'll be quite time constrained during this session so I thought I
>>>>>> would ask  a couple of simple questions which I hope have already
>>>>>> been addressed in  previous e-mails:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. Figures 14 & 15 are described as options and do not include an SMF.
>>>>>> However, Figures 16 & 17 do.  It is a bit confusing.  Are 14 & 15
>>>>>> incorrect  or is an option to skip the SMF?  If correct, how does one
>>>>>> do any policy in  those figures?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2.  ILA appears to be super NAT'g (more than 1 NAT) but it is
>>>>>> unclear how  policy works.  I am not sure that in its current state
>>>>>> the proposed ILA  design addresses in Section 3.  Although it is
>>>>>> noted that not all functions  are supported at a specific UPF it is
>>>>>> unclear that policy, lawful intercept,  etc.. is supported at all.
>>>>>> Will this be section be updated?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Lyle,
>>>>> 
>>>>> ILA is not NAT! :-) It is an address transformation process that is
>>>>> always undone before the packet is received so that receiver sees
>>>>> original packet. In this manner ILA is really just an efficient
>>>>> mechanism of creating network overlays. In this manner additional
>>>>> functionality (policy, lawful intercept, etc.) can be higher layers
>>>>> independent of the actual overlay mechanism.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tom
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3. Will a feature support comparison be made for each solution with
>>>>>> the UPF  functions to ensure coverage?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 4.  Will MFA be proposed as an option (
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> draft-gundavelli-dmm-mfa-00
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> )?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lyle
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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