But, in any case, NAT is not such a bad word, its just that it pushed IPv6
deployments out by 20 years.

Sri

On 3/20/18, 4:37 AM, "dmm on behalf of Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)"
<[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:

>Tom:
>
>> ILA is not NAT! :-)
>
>As seen from the end point, I agree ILA is not NAT. But, that the function
>that is needed at two places where you do translation of the addresses
>from SIR to LOCATOR, or LOCATOR to SIR is a NAT function, and you have a
>mapping state similar to NAT state. That¹s a NAT :-)
>
>
>Sri
>
>On 3/20/18, 4:29 AM, "dmm on behalf of Tom Herbert" <[email protected]
>on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 3:57 AM, Lyle Bertz <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>> We'll be quite time constrained during this session so I thought I
>>>would ask
>>> a couple of simple questions which I hope have already been addressed
>>>in
>>> previous e-mails:
>>>
>>> 1. Figures 14 & 15 are described as options and do not include an SMF.
>>> However, Figures 16 & 17 do.  It is a bit confusing.  Are 14 & 15
>>>incorrect
>>> or is an option to skip the SMF?  If correct, how does one do any
>>>policy in
>>> those figures?
>>>
>>> 2.  ILA appears to be super NAT'g (more than 1 NAT) but it is unclear
>>>how
>>> policy works.  I am not sure that in its current state the proposed ILA
>>> design addresses in Section 3.  Although it is noted that not all
>>>functions
>>> are supported at a specific UPF it is unclear that policy, lawful
>>>intercept,
>>> etc.. is supported at all.  Will this be section be updated?
>>>
>>Hi Lyle,
>>
>>ILA is not NAT! :-) It is an address transformation process that is
>>always undone before the packet is received so that receiver sees
>>original packet. In this manner ILA is really just an efficient
>>mechanism of creating network overlays. In this manner additional
>>functionality (policy, lawful intercept, etc.) can be higher layers
>>independent of the actual overlay mechanism.
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>> 3. Will a feature support comparison be made for each solution with the
>>>UPF
>>> functions to ensure coverage?
>>>
>>> 4.  Will MFA be proposed as an option (
>>>
>>> draft-gundavelli-dmm-mfa-00
>>>
>>> )?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Lyle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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