ILA-NAT-GW, or Locator-Rewrite Function ,,,should all work I guess.

Sri




On 3/20/18, 4:42 AM, "Marco Liebsch" <[email protected]> wrote:

>What about naming it nicely locator re-writing? Which is what it does and
>community reacts differently
>on certain terms such as NAT..
>
>marco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dmm [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sri Gundavelli
>(sgundave)
>Sent: Dienstag, 20. März 2018 12:40
>To: Tom Herbert; Lyle Bertz
>Cc: dmm
>Subject: Re: [DMM] draft-bogineni-dmm-optimized-mobile-user-plane-00
>
>But, in any case, NAT is not such a bad word, its just that it pushed
>IPv6 deployments out by 20 years.
>
>Sri
>
>On 3/20/18, 4:37 AM, "dmm on behalf of Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)"
><[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Tom:
>>
>>> ILA is not NAT! :-)
>>
>>As seen from the end point, I agree ILA is not NAT. But, that the
>>function that is needed at two places where you do translation of the
>>addresses from SIR to LOCATOR, or LOCATOR to SIR is a NAT function, and
>>you have a mapping state similar to NAT state. That¹s a NAT :-)
>>
>>
>>Sri
>>
>>On 3/20/18, 4:29 AM, "dmm on behalf of Tom Herbert"
>><[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 3:57 AM, Lyle Bertz <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>>> We'll be quite time constrained during this session so I thought I
>>>>would ask  a couple of simple questions which I hope have already
>>>>been addressed in  previous e-mails:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Figures 14 & 15 are described as options and do not include an SMF.
>>>> However, Figures 16 & 17 do.  It is a bit confusing.  Are 14 & 15
>>>>incorrect  or is an option to skip the SMF?  If correct, how does one
>>>>do any policy in  those figures?
>>>>
>>>> 2.  ILA appears to be super NAT'g (more than 1 NAT) but it is
>>>>unclear how  policy works.  I am not sure that in its current state
>>>>the proposed ILA  design addresses in Section 3.  Although it is
>>>>noted that not all functions  are supported at a specific UPF it is
>>>>unclear that policy, lawful intercept,  etc.. is supported at all.
>>>>Will this be section be updated?
>>>>
>>>Hi Lyle,
>>>
>>>ILA is not NAT! :-) It is an address transformation process that is
>>>always undone before the packet is received so that receiver sees
>>>original packet. In this manner ILA is really just an efficient
>>>mechanism of creating network overlays. In this manner additional
>>>functionality (policy, lawful intercept, etc.) can be higher layers
>>>independent of the actual overlay mechanism.
>>>
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>> 3. Will a feature support comparison be made for each solution with
>>>>the UPF  functions to ensure coverage?
>>>>
>>>> 4.  Will MFA be proposed as an option (
>>>>
>>>> draft-gundavelli-dmm-mfa-00
>>>>
>>>> )?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Lyle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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