i agree completely!

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> From:         James Smith
> Reply To:     Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
> Sent:         Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:29 PM
> To:   Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
> Subject:      [dnb-prod] Re: Breaks Programming -How? Hidden Secret.....
> 
> Recycle will help you cut your breaks up, but it won't make you
> Photek...Re-pogramming a chopped up drum is an art form as most of the
> people you name check prove...
> 
> I find the main secret is to layer your drum sounds and make sure that the
> re-programmed loop flows and has a groove 'cos if your beats haven't got a
> groove then your in deep do do when it comes to putting the bass in (IMO)
> as
> the bass and drums should work together so that really everything else is
> just an embelishment. I always have a section in my tunes that is JUST
> drum
> and bass and if that section doesn't work then IMO you should go back and
> look at the beats...
> 
> My two penneth...
> 
> James
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:34 PM
> Subject: [dnb-prod] Breaks Programming -How? Hidden Secret.....
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > After all the stuff about PC conflicts and nastiness, I've got a
> question
> on
> > good old beats production.
> >
> > Since peeps here can cast their minds back to stunning tunes like Source
> > Direct / Oblivion on Streetbeats and basically all the Photek
> Productions,
> > DeeJay Recordings (Pete Parsons - genius), deep stuff etc, etc - i was
> just
> > wondering if anyone here had ever managed to approach their kind of
> breaks
> > programming. How the f*ck do they do it?
> >
> > I only really bought my studio kit to try to make intricate breaks for
> > myself like i had always heard from those guys and after 2 yrs i know
> what
> > i'm doing, but i can't get my breaks to sound like they used to in
> 95....
> >
> > Basically, I haven't got Recycle for the A3000v2 sampler yet and i'm
> > thinking this is where i'm missing out. Can you generally use Recycle to
> > make to beats like on the tunes above. I have processed a ton of breaks
> in
> > Cool Edit Pro, but its during the tune that i can't quite get them to
> cut
> up
> > properly and still sound runnin'
> >
> > I'm using a PII 450, Logic Silver and the Yamaha A3000, whereas I'm
> guessing
> > peeps used to use Ataris and early Macs with Akai S3000 samplers - i

> know
> > the timing of PCs, Logic and the Yam sampler might not be so good as the
> > Atari and Akai, but surely thats not the whole story?
> >
> >  I'm thinking that Recycle/SCSI card might be the ultimate solution.....
> >
> > Any help would be cool,
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
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