Or use Reaktor! Which once you get the hang of, is absolutley THE most 
powerful bit of software you can use....

Terry


>From: "Nick Lankester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Automating plugins in Cubase & Reason..?
>Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:40:12 +0100
>
>Hehe... Yeah, I was thinking of all that stuff too!
>
>I suppose I'll just have to find some time to sit down and investigate the 
>whole thing!
>
>cheers,
>
>Nick
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Terry Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 24 April 2002 13:36
>To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
>Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Automating plugins in Cubase & Reason..?
>
>
>Nick,
>
>I take it your talking about FX plugs, yeah? To be honest the only midi
>driven FX plugs I've used are Midi Gate and Midi Comb and with those you
>give them their own track.
>
>I've heard that with some plugs, ie. Waldorf D-Pole 1.5 you can assign it a
>midi channel and fire cc's at it like that. That would make sense I
>guess...But if it was on the same midi channel as say, a VSTi and the VSTi
>responded to the same CCs as the plug, what would happen then. Would they
>BOTH respond or would override the other? Erm, and what about sends and
>inserts whats the difference there? Looks like I'm asking more questions
>than answering...hehehe
>
>Terry
>
>
> >From: "Nick Lankester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Automating plugins in Cubase & Reason..?
> >Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:25:59 +0100
> >
> >Yeah, I looked this up in my book which is for Cubase 5 but it didn't
> >mention anything about the specific plugin cc message type automation...
> >
> >Presumably if you want to control a plugin via Midi it has to have it's 
>own
> >midi track in the editor?
> >
> >Either none of my plugins are compatible or that isn't how it works ;) ..
> >
> >
> >cheers for the info..
> >
> >
> >Nick
> >
> >p.s. So you can program EQ sweeps using the 'read' and 'write' automation
> >method? You HAVE to do it by hand though right?
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Terry Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: 24 April 2002 13:11
> >To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
> >Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Automating plugins in Cubase & Reason..?
> >
> >
> >Nick,
> >
> >Cubase:
> >It depends on the plugin.  Some accept midi cc messages and these can be
> >"drawn in" on the 'Controller' screen or at the bottom of the edit page.
> >Otherwise you can record knob movements etc. in much the same way as you
> >can
> >record normal notes, except that you must click the "write" button on the
> >VST mixer to record them.  Click the "read" button when playing back.  I
> >also remember something about going to the midi setup dialog and checking
> >"record sysex".....
> >
> >Things you can automate:
> >
> >For each channel and group:
> >Volume.
> >Pan.
> >Mute.
> >Solo.
> >EQ on button.
> >Setting for the 4 EQ modules.
> >8 x Send effect active switches.
> >8 x Send effect levels.
> >8 x Send effect pre switchs.
> >Effect dry swicth.
> >4 x Insert effect prog selection (audio channels 1-32 only)
> >4 x Insert effect parameters (the first 15 for each effect, audio 
>channels
> >1
> >- 32 only)
> >
> >For ALL channels:
> >Master Volume left and right.
> >8 x Send effect master level.
> >8 x Send effect prog selection.
> >8 x xSend effect parameters (the first 16 for each effect)
> >4 x Master effect prog selection
> >4 x Master effect parameters (the first 8 for each effect).
> >
> >As you can prolly guess I just copied that out of a book :D the book was
> >written for VST 4 so I guess these MAY have changed but I doubt it.
> >
> >As for Reason, god knows...:D
> >
> >Terry
> >
> >
> > >From: "Nick Lankester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List"
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: [dnb-prod] Automating plugins in Cubase & Reason..?
> > >Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:53:01 +0100
> > >
> > >I know this has been asked a million times before but I've only just 
>got
> > >around to messing with it (Doh!)..
> > >
> > >Can anyone point me to a decent link that explains how to automate VST2
> > >plugins? (They have to be VST2 right? How do you know?)...
> > >
> > >Also, Does anyone know how to automate the knobs in reason that don't
> >have
> > >a specific 'edit automation' right click option?? (if that's what it's
> > >called)..
> > >I'm thinking of things like the master mix level on the delay etc...
> > >
> > >
> > >cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Nick
> > >
> > >BluntedInstrumentZ
> > >
> > >http://www.trunk-o-funk.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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