Gotcha...I'm still a bit confused how you'd do it in software if a plug accepted midi CCs but you coudln't assign it a midi channel of its own...then again I don't know if this is the situation with any plugs or not..
Arrgghhh!!! MIND F*CK!!! Terry >From: cacofone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Automating plugins in Cubase & Reason..? >Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:57:10 -0500 > >Terry, >in a computer-less environment, and I guess it would be the same with a >computer (i'd hope, but you might have to use midi-ox) yes, both the VSTi >and the fx'd both respond. > >The difference between inserts and sends are that inserts go directly back >to an input on the mixer, while the aux sends have an input for themselves >and each individual channel has a mix level for the fx. > >peaz, >Joshua > >At 07:36 AM 4/24/02, you wrote: >>Nick, >> >>I take it your talking about FX plugs, yeah? To be honest the only midi >>driven FX plugs I've used are Midi Gate and Midi Comb and with those you >>give them their own track. >> >>I've heard that with some plugs, ie. Waldorf D-Pole 1.5 you can assign it >>a midi channel and fire cc's at it like that. That would make sense I >>guess...But if it was on the same midi channel as say, a VSTi and the VSTi >>responded to the same CCs as the plug, what would happen then. Would they >>BOTH respond or would override the other? Erm, and what about sends and >>inserts whats the difference there? Looks like I'm asking more questions >>than answering...hehehe >> >>Terry >> >> >>>From: "Nick Lankester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Reply-To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Automating plugins in Cubase & Reason..? >>>Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:25:59 +0100 >>> >>>Yeah, I looked this up in my book which is for Cubase 5 but it didn't >>>mention anything about the specific plugin cc message type automation... >>> >>>Presumably if you want to control a plugin via Midi it has to have it's >>>own midi track in the editor? >>> >>>Either none of my plugins are compatible or that isn't how it works ;) .. >>> >>> >>>cheers for the info.. >>> >>> >>>Nick >>> >>>p.s. So you can program EQ sweeps using the 'read' and 'write' automation >>>method? You HAVE to do it by hand though right? >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Terry Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: 24 April 2002 13:11 >>>To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List >>>Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Automating plugins in Cubase & Reason..? >>> >>> >>>Nick, >>> >>>Cubase: >>>It depends on the plugin. Some accept midi cc messages and these can be >>>"drawn in" on the 'Controller' screen or at the bottom of the edit page. >>>Otherwise you can record knob movements etc. in much the same way as you >>>can >>>record normal notes, except that you must click the "write" button on the >>>VST mixer to record them. Click the "read" button when playing back. I >>>also remember something about going to the midi setup dialog and checking >>>"record sysex"..... >>> >>>Things you can automate: >>> >>>For each channel and group: >>>Volume. >>>Pan. >>>Mute. >>>Solo. >>>EQ on button. >>>Setting for the 4 EQ modules. >>>8 x Send effect active switches. >>>8 x Send effect levels. >>>8 x Send effect pre switchs. >>>Effect dry swicth. >>>4 x Insert effect prog selection (audio channels 1-32 only) >>>4 x Insert effect parameters (the first 15 for each effect, audio >>>channels 1 >>>- 32 only) >>> >>>For ALL channels: >>>Master Volume left and right. >>>8 x Send effect master level. >>>8 x Send effect prog selection. >>>8 x xSend effect parameters (the first 16 for each effect) >>>4 x Master effect prog selection >>>4 x Master effect parameters (the first 8 for each effect). >>> >>>As you can prolly guess I just copied that out of a book :D the book was >>>written for VST 4 so I guess these MAY have changed but I doubt it. >>> >>>As for Reason, god knows...:D >>> >>>Terry >>> >>> >>> >From: "Nick Lankester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >Reply-To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" >>> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >Subject: [dnb-prod] Automating plugins in Cubase & Reason..? >>> >Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:53:01 +0100 >>> > >>> >I know this has been asked a million times before but I've only just >>>got >>> >around to messing with it (Doh!).. >>> > >>> >Can anyone point me to a decent link that explains how to automate VST2 >>> >plugins? (They have to be VST2 right? How do you know?)... >>> > >>> >Also, Does anyone know how to automate the knobs in reason that don't >>>have >>> >a specific 'edit automation' right click option?? (if that's what it's >>> >called).. >>> >I'm thinking of things like the master mix level on the delay etc... >>> > >>> > >>> >cheers, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >Nick >>> > >>> >BluntedInstrumentZ >>> > >>> >http://www.trunk-o-funk.com >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >--- >>> >Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk >>> >You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >>>http://www.hotmail.com >>> >>> >>>--- >>>Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk >>>You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To unsubscribe send a blank email to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>--- >>>Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk >>>You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To unsubscribe send a blank email to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com >> >> >>--- >>Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk >>You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To unsubscribe send a blank email to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[o Good Time Tribe [aim:goodtimetribe] http://www.goodtimetribe.com o] >[o Synthesizer Modification Discuss http://group.yahoo.com/group/synth-mod >o] > > >--- >Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk >You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx --- Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
