Terry, in a computer-less environment, and I guess it would be the same with a computer (i'd hope, but you might have to use midi-ox) yes, both the VSTi and the fx'd both respond.
The difference between inserts and sends are that inserts go directly back to an input on the mixer, while the aux sends have an input for themselves and each individual channel has a mix level for the fx. peaz, Joshua At 07:36 AM 4/24/02, you wrote: >Nick, > >I take it your talking about FX plugs, yeah? To be honest the only midi >driven FX plugs I've used are Midi Gate and Midi Comb and with those you >give them their own track. > >I've heard that with some plugs, ie. Waldorf D-Pole 1.5 you can assign it >a midi channel and fire cc's at it like that. That would make sense I >guess...But if it was on the same midi channel as say, a VSTi and the VSTi >responded to the same CCs as the plug, what would happen then. Would they >BOTH respond or would override the other? Erm, and what about sends and >inserts whats the difference there? Looks like I'm asking more questions >than answering...hehehe > >Terry > > >>From: "Nick Lankester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Automating plugins in Cubase & Reason..? >>Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:25:59 +0100 >> >>Yeah, I looked this up in my book which is for Cubase 5 but it didn't >>mention anything about the specific plugin cc message type automation... >> >>Presumably if you want to control a plugin via Midi it has to have it's >>own midi track in the editor? >> >>Either none of my plugins are compatible or that isn't how it works ;) .. >> >> >>cheers for the info.. >> >> >>Nick >> >>p.s. So you can program EQ sweeps using the 'read' and 'write' automation >>method? You HAVE to do it by hand though right? >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Terry Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: 24 April 2002 13:11 >>To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List >>Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Automating plugins in Cubase & Reason..? >> >> >>Nick, >> >>Cubase: >>It depends on the plugin. Some accept midi cc messages and these can be >>"drawn in" on the 'Controller' screen or at the bottom of the edit page. >>Otherwise you can record knob movements etc. in much the same way as you can >>record normal notes, except that you must click the "write" button on the >>VST mixer to record them. Click the "read" button when playing back. I >>also remember something about going to the midi setup dialog and checking >>"record sysex"..... >> >>Things you can automate: >> >>For each channel and group: >>Volume. >>Pan. >>Mute. >>Solo. >>EQ on button. >>Setting for the 4 EQ modules. >>8 x Send effect active switches. >>8 x Send effect levels. >>8 x Send effect pre switchs. >>Effect dry swicth. >>4 x Insert effect prog selection (audio channels 1-32 only) >>4 x Insert effect parameters (the first 15 for each effect, audio channels 1 >>- 32 only) >> >>For ALL channels: >>Master Volume left and right. >>8 x Send effect master level. >>8 x Send effect prog selection. >>8 x xSend effect parameters (the first 16 for each effect) >>4 x Master effect prog selection >>4 x Master effect parameters (the first 8 for each effect). >> >>As you can prolly guess I just copied that out of a book :D the book was >>written for VST 4 so I guess these MAY have changed but I doubt it. >> >>As for Reason, god knows...:D >> >>Terry >> >> >> >From: "Nick Lankester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Reply-To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Subject: [dnb-prod] Automating plugins in Cubase & Reason..? >> >Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:53:01 +0100 >> > >> >I know this has been asked a million times before but I've only just got >> >around to messing with it (Doh!).. >> > >> >Can anyone point me to a decent link that explains how to automate VST2 >> >plugins? (They have to be VST2 right? How do you know?)... >> > >> >Also, Does anyone know how to automate the knobs in reason that don't have >> >a specific 'edit automation' right click option?? (if that's what it's >> >called).. >> >I'm thinking of things like the master mix level on the delay etc... >> > >> > >> >cheers, >> > >> > >> > >> >Nick >> > >> >BluntedInstrumentZ >> > >> >http://www.trunk-o-funk.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >--- >> >Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk >> >You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >>http://www.hotmail.com >> >> >>--- >>Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk >>You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To unsubscribe send a blank email to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>--- >>Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk >>You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To unsubscribe send a blank email to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > >--- >Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk >You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] [o Good Time Tribe [aim:goodtimetribe] http://www.goodtimetribe.com o] [o Synthesizer Modification Discuss http://group.yahoo.com/group/synth-mod o] --- Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
