On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 02:17:28PM +0100, Irrwahn wrote:

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> 
> Yes, that appears to be the most likely explanation. 
> 
> > Maybe we need to rebuild it with support for elogind.
> 
> I think that has to be done anyway, because currently one cannot 
> have policykit without having consolekit installed with it, due to 
> the "Depends". The package should have something akin to: 
> 
>   Depends: libpam-elogind | consolekit
> 
> Anyone up for the task?
> 

Urban, it's not just a matter of recompiling a single package. It is
more about knowing how such a change would impact the whole
distribution, and desktop-things in particular. 

So before we rush into "remove that dep...oh no add that other one
instead...oh no, let's replace this component with a brand-new one
which does not exist yet..." we must know exactly where we want to go,
how to get there, and if the trip is worth the effort at all.

Having elogind and consolekit2 in experimental is all about trying to
see if some of the few glitches on the Devuan desktop can be easily
solved. IMHO, this does not mean that we must solve *all* of those
glitches, especially because the same concept of "session" (which is
the root of all this evil) looks at best badly defined, if not totally
bogus.

We don't necessarily have to follow the white rabbit into its dark
hole, especially because there is a high probability that the rabbit
will turn into a snake. We have the option to stay outside and enjoy
the sun...

My2Cents

KatolaZ

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