On Aug 15, 2022, at 10:14 AM, Ray Bellis <[email protected]> wrote: > STD 13 then effectively makes udp/53 and tcp/53 the de-facto wire protocols > for interrogating that system, mostly surplanting the use of host files. > > On that basis, I'm unable to separate the RFC 921 / 952 "Domain Name System" > namespace from the STD-13 one embodied in the ICANN-managed root zone that we > have now. I think they're the same thing.
Exactly. I’ve tried to ignore the “but hostnames existed before the DNS” argument because it’s simply irrelevant — users and applications understand there is a single namespace, known as the “domain name” namespace. There are partitions of that namespace (see RFC 6761 and 7686) that may or may not be resolvable via the DNS, but they all exist within the “domain name” namespace. In my view, ICANN was established, in part, to deal with the issues involved in creating those partitions. I believe the real problem here is that the model of operation assumed by the ICANN processes didn’t account for particular corner case uses of the namespace. I remain unconvinced that the IETF providing a short circuit for that process is the right solution. Regards, -drc
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