I have also have a Hakko 888D for general soldering and it is great.  I've
done some 1mm SMD LEDS with it but it takes a stead hand.  I have tried the
cheaper Chinese made stuff and could never go back.  Plus these are units
are under $100 and well worth the quality.

For the hot air side I have a Hakko 850 hot air station.   I actually bought
two Hakko 850 units and one 851 unit in an auction.  I need to actually sell
these extra units so if you are interested in quality used hot air stations
instead of cheap Chinese ones, contact me off list and we can work something
out.

Sova
970-FOR-SOVA

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Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] soldering

The [WEP/Atten/Yihua//Wylie/etc] 858D has served me well for several years
now. The handle is chunkier since it has a small squirrel cage blower
instead of a remote aquarium-style air pump, but it’s a lot cheaper and has
fewer parts to break. It also functions well as an intermediate tool between
a hair dryer and a heat gun, which is nice for more delicate tasks like heat
shrink tubing/Monokote for RC planes/welding & bending small plastic
parts/making tiny servings of crème brûlée/etc.

As with all no-name equipment from China, be sure to check the wiring:
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/deadly-wiring-fault-atten-858d-hot-air-rew
ork-station/

If you prefer an iron and only have a few large ICs to remove, there’s also
the option of low melting point solder:
http://www.chipquik.com/store/
http://www.zeph.com/lowmelt.htm

Tools for grabbing components:
- good quality tweezers
- a manual hand pump (www.ebay.com/itm/131206538767) only useful as a source
for pickup tips when connected to an aquarium pump for a DIY tool
- the fantastic but expensive Hakko 394
http://www.amazon.com/Hakko-394-01-Vacuum-Pick-Up-Safe/dp/B009SCKYV6


Side note: I’m never giving up my classic Hakko 936 — you can’t stack
anything on the new Hakko soldering stations because they’re rounded on top!


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On Mar 11, 2015, at 10:29 AM, David Madden <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 3/11/15 10:17 AM, Philip Odom wrote:
>> Second on the Metcal stuff, if you want to spend the money. BUT pretty
expensive.
>> 
>> I have a Hakko FX-888D at home,
> 
> Do these have hot air as well?  (Is it as useful as I imagine?)
> 
> I do hot-plate reflow fairly successfully (down to 0603, 0.5mm and
> QFN48) without stencils, just squirting solder on the pads.  I usually 
> rework QFNs by reheating with my firestarter pencil iron and 
> solder-braid sucking the excess out.  (Yes, I know: it's a horrible 
> stone-age process, but it's the best I know how to do so far.)
> 
> But I have trouble removing / modifying multi-pin things, because I 
> can't get the whole thing hot enough at once.  (I have a friend who 
> just puts a big glob of solder over the whole part and gets 'em off 
> that way, but daaayum, that's beyond my skill.  He does QFN with a big 
> ol' 40W pencil iron, dragging packages around on a pool of solder by 
> surface
> tension!)
> 
> So it seems like if I had hot air, I could heat up a package quickly 
> and grab it with tweezers or vacuum.  Not so?  Or is the tool to do 
> that reliably just really expensive?
> 
> I was looking at the Aoyue 968A+...
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