22.07.2013 22:35, Bart Oldeman пишет:
> On 22 July 2013 12:50, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> The text of the GPLv2 does not grant permission to use code released
>> under the GPLv2 under any other terms, including the terms of the GPLv3.
>>
>> dosemu relied upon the convention of a top level copying file for it's
>> copyright licensing terms.
>>
>> The copyright licensing terms were the text of the GPLv2.
>>
>> The option of a later version was not given.  The code base was
>> exclusively under GPLv2.
> It's a bit more subtle than that. In the very early days of dosemu no
> copyright file was included (COPYING was missing until
> 0.63.1.something in 1996), but those were the 'wild west' days and
> people just assumed it was GPL.
> Then at some point parts of the source code (notably the serial code
> and VGA emulator, 1995) got the explicit "v2 or later" statement
But, as I can see from the 1998's patch, the serial files do not
carry the copyrights too... Where was it?

> But when Hans restricted to v2 in 1998, then it was unambiguous, from
> then on all modifications are v2 only, unless otherwise indicated.
How was the aforementioned serial and VGA code dealt with then?

> Whether it is "intimate" is rather vague. I do not consider it
> intimate (it's all going over interfaces documented in RBIL), so using
> or distributing DOSEMU with any DOS, I see no problems with, much like
> distributing the Linux kernel with some closed-source programs (which
This may be fine, but AFAICS this is not what is written, because
clause 5 explicitly calls it a "library linking", and a proprietary library,
to be able to be distributed with GPLed software, needs a written
exception about _distributing_, which is what clause 5 is not.
So, while I agree with you, I do not agree with the clause 5...

> So in that sense it is useful to clarify our intent (this is not an
> exception like in the LGPL, purely clarifying intent like in the Linux
> kernel);
Do you agree that to make this true, we need to get rid of the
"linking trick"? That's the only thing I really intended to do, although
the best way to achieve it is IMHO to just remove it and forget. :)

> I personally have no problem with "or later" because of clause 9 in
> GPLv2 that restricts itself to be similar in spirit in later version.
> But to relicense to "v2 or later" Stas needs permission (IMHO) from
> all copyright holders of modification post the 1998 restriction by
> Hans, or rewrite all this code.
Could you please clarify if you call my proposal that changes
only the _default_ license, a re-licensing? I changed all the files
to explicitly state "GPLv2 only", so why do you think so?

> (like I mentioned Hans told me "v2 or v3" was fine with him, Alberto's
> simx86 was initially released under "2 or later", so that leaves only
> you (Eric) and Clarence as major contributors to ask, with a bigger
> number of smaller contributors).
Thanks for this one, excellent point!

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