Hi Paul:

Yes the shaft must be electrically and mechanically connected to the yoke. Also, I see there is no ground strap mod done from the top of the yoke to the frame.

I don't recall if the yoke is soldered or pressed onto the slug shaft but I suspect it is soldered..the shaft is brass, and the yoke is solderable like tin or nickel plate. I can check when I get home but someone else will probably know for sure sooner.

I would do it by taking the whole thing apart, dis-assembling the shaft from the yoke to clean each part with fine grit emery cloth, then resolder using some good flux and a micro torch.

Soldering braid to the frame and yoke can be done with a normal 100W gun or hot iron.

Curt


On 11/3/2011 2:22 PM, Paul Gerhardt wrote:
OK I got the 'spare' PTO out to test and it has a loose 'tuning shaft'
The tuning shaft is loose from the 'fork' piece.  It appears as though
someone had tried to solder it on to the fork piece.  Was it orginally
a 'press' fit?  Has anyone ever repaired this problem before.

I posted of pix of the Assy on my blog at pgerhardt.blogspot.com . It
is marked as a T4XB unit.

After fixing the shaft to the fork I would like to test it for
operation on the bench.  I see a ground wire (green black) and another
wire a red white).  There are also two solder lugs one near the white
red wire and another at one of the spring clips.  How much voltage
should I put on the PTO to check the oscillator?

There is also some small amount of grease on the gears but it feels
'OK' turning.  I will probably just brush off the gears with an old
toothbrush and getting them as dry as possible.  Is any thing else
recommended?





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Today's Topics:

   1. R-4B Mod removal, Part 1 (Steve Wedge)
   2. Re: R-4B Mod removal, Part 1 (Pete Juliano)
   3. Re: R-4B Mod removal, Part 1 (Steve Wedge)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:37:37 -0400
From: "Steve Wedge"<[email protected]>
To: "Drake List"<[email protected]>
Subject: [Drakelist] R-4B Mod removal, Part 1
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I'm not as brave as Pete (N6QW) - if I assume that he restored his R-4B all at 
once.  Chances are, he didn't, but he did give me a darn good road-map.  My 
first goals for this evening were to check to see if Radio Shack really did 
sell long-shafted 10k pots anymore - they do (!) and so I parted with about 3 
bucks and change and brought it home.

The pot will be to replace the RF GAIN control - which the PO had ditched in 
favour of rigging up some sort of alternative RF Gain/AGC circuit.  This is the 
source of that extra knob on the front.  This rework will, however, continue 
tomorrow night.

Tonight, my actual goals in working on the receiver were to undo the audio 
mods, thereby unleashing the 6EH5 again.  For some reason, the PO shorted the 
grid to the cathode and ran a piece of RG-174 from this to the INJ jack.  He 
moved the INJ over to the SPARE location and installed another RCA jack there.  
Why?  Darned if I know.  It seems he didn't need the high-level audio, probably 
because he was using an external audio amp.  I have no idea why he'd want to 
move (and cut!) the INJ shielded line.  Anyway, as luck would have it, after 
removing that piece of RG-174, I determined that it was the perfect length to 
go from the correct jack back over to T4.  So, I removed the old shielded cable 
from T4 to the SPARE jack and installed the free end of the piece of RG-174 
over to its correct location on T4.  It's very tight in there around the 
bandswitch!  I removed what I thought was an extra capacitor on the board 
nearest the AF GAIN control.

When I turned the rig on, I was greeted with nothing!  At least there was no 
smoke...

I found a couple of problems.  That "extra" cap was moved over to the foil side 
of the board to make room for a big electrolytic that's paralleled across one of the 
terminals on the can cap (a bad idea that will be addressed later - maybe)  I had removed 
a .47 that was substituted for the original .01 that couples the audio output to the 
speaker!  No wonder there was no audio!  Put a new .01 on the foil side and voila!  Now I 
can keep the AF GAIN barely cracked open and get plenty of audio - just like it was 
designed to do!

A more troubling matter reared its head - the INJ didn't seem to be working 
properly.  Strangely enough, if I switched to the transmitter, I was getting 
signals as tuned by BOTH PTO's.  Obviously, the negative bias wasn't working 
for some reason.  After metering and sniffing around, I found a wire attached 
to the resistor board directly beneath the PTO that wasn't soldered!  I'm 
amazed this receiver had worked for as long as it did - this was the wire from 
T4 to the resistor board.  I re-soldered this wire and everything's working as 
it should (except the RF Gain, of course).

I'm done for this evening.  I sliced open the tip of my left index finger 
whilst trimming the RG-174 with my nice-n-sharp Swiss Army Knife.  It's now 
starting to hurt.

Tomorrow, I begin the process of unraveling the RF GAIN and AGC mods.  This 
one's going to be a lot more work.  Once those changes are done, I'll put two - 
count 'em - headphone jacks in: one mono jack where it's supposed to be (on the 
side) and one to plug the hole in the front panel, which I'll rig as a 
L-R-shorted stereo jack so that one can use stereo phones without an adaptor.  
I figure that if the damn hole is going to be there anyway, it might as well do 
something useful!

Pete, again, thanks for being the pioneer.  With a stone-stock, working R-4B 
that I can use - plus Garey's CD - I'm having an easier time than you probably 
did.  Getting to that 150-ohm resistor is going to be a challenge.

Enjoy Those Drakes...

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

To be is to do - Socrates
To do is to be - Plato
Do be do be do. - Sinatra

All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended 
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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:43:13 -0700
From: "Pete Juliano"<[email protected]>
To: "Steve Wedge"<[email protected]>,     "Drake List"
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Hi Steve,

Actually I did it all in two days so it was a little longer than one afternoon. 
But that also included testing all of the tubes, cleaning the chassis top and 
putting de-oxit on the switch terminals with the micro-applicator and giving 
all the tube pins a shot of de-oxit and back into their sockets. Finding the 
missing 2.2M Ohm resistor took the longest. If I had Garey's CD that would have 
been much faster. I now have it so any more work will go faster. BTW the 2.2M 
resistor was missing on the other radio I know of besides yours. You didn't 
mention if you addressed that --but the AGC won't work without that resistor.

Look carefully and the 6BZ6 and you might find that 150 Ohm resistor has just 
been moved slightly out of the way and not removed totally. That was the case 
in two radios from that lot. If it is there then a clean up of the Cathode pin 
with solder wick it will let you slide that puppy right in place and you are 
there. If you want to plug the hole in the front panel then you can use a 5/16 
black plastic plug and it will fit nicely and the hole sort of disappears into 
the front panel. I found one such plug at my local hardware store.

73's
Pete N6QW




From: Steve Wedge
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 5:37 PM
To: Drake List
Subject: [Drakelist] R-4B Mod removal, Part 1


I'm not as brave as Pete (N6QW) - if I assume that he restored his R-4B all at 
once.  Chances are, he didn't, but he did give me a darn good road-map.  My 
first goals for this evening were to check to see if Radio Shack really did 
sell long-shafted 10k pots anymore - they do (!) and so I parted with about 3 
bucks and change and brought it home.

The pot will be to replace the RF GAIN control - which the PO had ditched in 
favour of rigging up some sort of alternative RF Gain/AGC circuit.  This is the 
source of that extra knob on the front.  This rework will, however, continue 
tomorrow night.

Tonight, my actual goals in working on the receiver were to undo the audio 
mods, thereby unleashing the 6EH5 again.  For some reason, the PO shorted the 
grid to the cathode and ran a piece of RG-174 from this to the INJ jack.  He 
moved the INJ over to the SPARE location and installed another RCA jack there.  
Why?  Darned if I know.  It seems he didn't need the high-level audio, probably 
because he was using an external audio amp.  I have no idea why he'd want to 
move (and cut!) the INJ shielded line.  Anyway, as luck would have it, after 
removing that piece of RG-174, I determined that it was the perfect length to 
go from the correct jack back over to T4.  So, I removed the old shielded cable 
from T4 to the SPARE jack and installed the free end of the piece of RG-174 
over to its correct location on T4.  It's very tight in there around the 
bandswitch!  I removed what I thought was an extra capacitor on the board 
nearest the AF GAIN control.

When I turned the rig on, I was greeted with nothing!  At least there was no 
smoke...

I found a couple of problems.  That "extra" cap was moved over to the foil side 
of the board to make room for a big electrolytic that's paralleled across one of the 
terminals on the can cap (a bad idea that will be addressed later - maybe)  I had removed 
a .47 that was substituted for the original .01 that couples the audio output to the 
speaker!  No wonder there was no audio!  Put a new .01 on the foil side and voila!  Now I 
can keep the AF GAIN barely cracked open and get plenty of audio - just like it was 
designed to do!

A more troubling matter reared its head - the INJ didn't seem to be working 
properly.  Strangely enough, if I switched to the transmitter, I was getting 
signals as tuned by BOTH PTO's.  Obviously, the negative bias wasn't working 
for some reason.  After metering and sniffing around, I found a wire attached 
to the resistor board directly beneath the PTO that wasn't soldered!  I'm 
amazed this receiver had worked for as long as it did - this was the wire from 
T4 to the resistor board.  I re-soldered this wire and everything's working as 
it should (except the RF Gain, of course).

I'm done for this evening.  I sliced open the tip of my left index finger 
whilst trimming the RG-174 with my nice-n-sharp Swiss Army Knife.  It's now 
starting to hurt.

Tomorrow, I begin the process of unraveling the RF GAIN and AGC mods.  This 
one's going to be a lot more work.  Once those changes are done, I'll put two - 
count 'em - headphone jacks in: one mono jack where it's supposed to be (on the 
side) and one to plug the hole in the front panel, which I'll rig as a 
L-R-shorted stereo jack so that one can use stereo phones without an adaptor.  
I figure that if the damn hole is going to be there anyway, it might as well do 
something useful!

Pete, again, thanks for being the pioneer.  With a stone-stock, working R-4B 
that I can use - plus Garey's CD - I'm having an easier time than you probably 
did.  Getting to that 150-ohm resistor is going to be a challenge.

Enjoy Those Drakes...

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

To be is to do - Socrates
To do is to be - Plato
Do be do be do. - Sinatra

All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended 
thereto.



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