Good Morning Bernie & All:
After seeing the video from 1997 I too questioned whether BS7 should
be on the list. My conclusion is that it should never have been a new
entity(don't ask me why, I don't have a good answer). However, now
that it is on the list I do not believe it should be removed. In
retrospect, a land mass clause probably should have been an original
part of the rules, but it wasn't/isn't. You can't un-ring the bell.
Move on.
73,
Mike, W5UC
At 05:59 AM 5/10/2007, Bernie McClenny, W3UR wrote:
HS0ZCW, who sometimes operates as K4VUD said "Maybe it is time to re-think
the DXCC status of this place?"
This would set a terrible precedence! We must follow the DXCC rules
otherwise we will destroy the very fabric of the integrity of the DXCC
program. If we do as Charles suggests for BS7H what will be next? This is
a slippery slope. Anyone could then make the same case for many other
counters on the DXCC list. I won't give examples but one could easily list
many more countries for their "own personal" reasons. We have gone down
this road many times over the years. So there is no need to repeat this
thread. There is one and only one way for a DXCC Entity (country) to be
removed from the DXCC list.
Notice I said removed! I don't think many people realize the next country
that does not meet the DXCC criteria will be removed, not deleted, as there
will be no more deletes because of the results of DXCC 2000. That's right a
removal, which will be as if you never worked it! More on that discussion
later.
Back to the one and only way to remove a current counter from the DXCC list.
The only way is if the said entity no longer meets the criteria in which put
it on the list to begin with. Rules that are made up afterwards do not
affect its status. Remember BS7H was added to the list back in the mid 90s.
Then afterwards in an effort to not have any others added to the list like
Scarborough Reef the "100 meter high tide" rule was added. Believe me you
don't want to remove anything off the DXCC list, unless it does not meet the
criteria.
I wonder how many have actually read the DXCC rules?
http://www.arrl.org/awards/dxcc/rules.html
Notice I said read them, not understood them all! Some are hard to
understand, but then again so are some of the counters on the list!
See you in the next pileup?
Bernie, W3UR
Bernie McClenny, W3UR
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Harpole
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 01:39
To: [email protected]
Subject: [DX-CHAT] BS7H thoughts
Fellow DXers.... Prior to the latest BS7H op, I had not given the Rocks any
attention and had only a vague notion of what is there. But today I read
the web sites, saw the photos, and listened to James' super interview while
on site. I come away of two minds... one with great appreciation and awe at
the accomplishment and second with a deeper understanding of how truly
dangerous this op was.
Of course, I congratulate all who make this happen and especially to men who
were willing genuinely to risk their lives to do the op. Let nothing take
away from that.
However, I have to ask if this set of rocks is worth the risks? I know
mountain climbers die in their efforts and there are many other very
dangerous "sport" activities, but should we as a hobby sanction placing our
fellow hams into a place where the slightest bad weather, lightning strike,
or just a nasty fall would have been an easy-to-happen disaster. How would
we feel as hams if the worst had happened there? How much should we depend
on LUCK? I think anyone can go where ever they please, but not with the
sanction and official stamp of our great avocation.
Maybe it is time to re-think the DXCC status of this place?
Charles Harpole
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