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hi,
on IE5.5 none of them have hourglasses.(bug is ie
5.0 only?)
What about using dynimage, like in the examples
directory from the release?
And would
puffinImg= new
Image();
puffinImg.src = "puffinA.gif";
longHTML.setHTML('<IMG
SRC="'+puffinImg.src+'">')
make any difference?
Cheers,
Richard Bennett
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 1:06
AM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help]
Images...
I did a test of ghost hourglasses while dragging an image in IE
5.5:
// Only the A gif does not have a ghost hourglass.
// A= gif added with setHTML, with the layer added the long way.
// B=
gif added with setBgImage, with the layer added the short way.
// C= gif
added with setHTML, with the layer added the long way.
// D= gif added with
setBgImage, with the layer added the short way.
Glen
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:43
AM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help]
Images...
No, I am not being cynical, I really worship you guys, and what you can
make a web page do. I can only try to emulate some of it.
Glen
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:22
AM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Help]
Images...
>
I so glad this is being discussed by the coding gods.
Inquiring minds want to know.
I'm hoping
your being synicall here ...
Anyway, there
might be problems on IE5.5 machines when you have empty-layers, I haven't
tested this, but I got thinking that there's a dummy-image placed into the
background if a layer is empty on ie5.5 (this to fix the bug with
events not triggering) This might also mean that if this layer is
moved/resized/whatever the hour-glass appears because it want to
load the dummy image.
Not sure if
this happens, because the image is actually
javascript:null so it should not try to load anything at
all.
The problem
with NS6 is a problem in the eventlistener.. I think Jordi fixed this
problem for IE, and seeing that most things work the same under IE5 and
NS6 the same fix should be possible for NS6 (problem is that the image
receives the event, and this screws up the layer's event handling because
it can't recognise the IMG's layer object parent)
Pascal Bestebroer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Software
ontwikkelaar
Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
http://www.oibv.com
Some feedback... I get the same ghost hourglass while
dragging images added with both setHTML AND setBgImage on my 200
meg machine.
I have started using setBgImage because ns6 doesn't drag an image
added with setHTML, unless I put an empty layer handle on it.
Glen
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001
3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help]
Images...
Doug,
breath in, breath out...
It's very obvious that the pressures of
your sites pending deadline are leeching into your tone and tenor
within the group.
We all learn here, every day. It's
one of the profound benefits of being involved in this type of
collaboration.
To expect a literary manifest of total
and absolute wisdom in a field of endeavor as complex as this is
asking a tad much; even from the notables we have the privilege of
working with here.
The truth be told about setBgImage is
that the bug was with NS when using "events" and setBgImage
together. There is no bug in IE what Pascal is referring to is
an "optimization" and "efficiency" as related to a interactive
game.
Now, that said.. where's my friggen "rock
at!
Ray
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001
7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help]
Images...
> a) The fastest way for loading
images is caching them, so load them into
> dynlayers at the
beginning of your game, so that the browser has the image
> in
it's cache.. after that it will get it fast enough
everytime.
>
> Also note, that NEVER use
setBgImage() to set the images in the
dynlayers,
THIS is why we need a
more full attempt to document the DynAPI.
I have at least 15 calls
to setBgImage().. noone told me IE had a weekness
here...
> IE will reload the image everytime
the layer changes (size, position,etc..)
>
> b)
>
I usually just use DynLayer with setHTML to insert the image.. this
is the
> fastest object available (not sure how dynimage
works, but since it's an
> extra object it might be slower
then using normal layers)
I do agree here.. I have
fond that in the widgets I've played with, and in the examples I
seen there has been way too much of the "better mousetrap"
syndrome.. In fact I almost exclusivly use DynLayers
now..
except in the rare
occations where I need to 'pack' the hight or width of an object
(read Label())
> c) BMP is not possible.. My opinion when doing
web-games are that your
> images must be as small as possible
(as little amount of colors needed, so
> 16 if possible), and
if possible contain no transparency.. this way the
> browser
can handle it faster.. Also make sure the image don't contain
any
> extra white-space on the edges, this is just wasted time
for the browser to
> render the space which is not there. GIF
images use RLEncoding, so white
> space is still processed
even though it's not there.. and since browsers are
> not
doing a great job of rendering, try to make everything as "easy"
as
> possible for the browser.
again.. COMPRESS your graphics.. This CAN
be achieved without loss of image quality..
:-)
> Ofcourse backgrounds can be JPG with 16million colors
(as long as they don't > move) but again, areas of this
background will be re-renderd by the browser > when ever
something passes over them.. so use 256- color images when
ever > possible. > > > Pascal
Bestebroer > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.dynamic-core.net>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk
bericht-----
> > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens GORTSILAS
ANDREAS
> > Verzonden: zondag 28 januari 2001 11:44
>
> Aan: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'> > Onderwerp: RE: [Dynapi-Help]
Images...
> >
> >
> > a)=========
>
> Imagine 32 pieces which each of them has an image... I am
looking
> > for a way
> > to load them, quickly
and efficiently...
> >
> > I use
DynImage.getImage(src) to get the image and then load the
>
> dynimage...
> >
oImg = DynImage.getImage(src)
>
> var oDynImg = new
DynImage();
> >
oDynImg.setSize(25,25);
>
> oDynImg.moveTo(iLeft,
iTop);
> >
oDynImg.setImage(oImg);
>
>
DynAPI.document.addChild(oDynImg);
> >
> > Is it
the correct way to do it?
> >
> > Here I want to
read the images from one container image... I don't want to
>
> show it only...
> >
> > b)===========
>
> If you don't use DynImage what do you use? (for similar
tasks)
> >
> > c)===========
> > Gif,
bmp, jpg, .... or what ever...
> >
> >
Andreas
> >
> >
> >
> >
-----Original Message-----
> > From: Pascal Bestebroer
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, January
28, 2001 12:26 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Help]
Images...
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> > a) use a child layer containing the images in a
main layer, clip the main
> > layer to the size of the
image, and move the child layer to the correct
> >
(negative) x,y position to show the other images. (don't
have
> > code to show,
> > but this is the idea
behind it)
> > b) no clue (never used dynimage)
>
> c) not sure what you mean, but I think that resedrawing the
image (using
> > setHTML) and then set the width and height
values of the image to the same
> > width and height of the
layer.
> >
> > cya
> >
> >
Pascal Bestebroer
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.dynamic-core.net> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk
bericht-----
> > > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens GORTSILAS
ANDREAS
> > > Verzonden: zondag 28 januari 2001
10:01
> > > Aan: Dynapi-Help Mailing List
(E-mail)
> > > Onderwerp: [Dynapi-Help]
Images...
> > >
> > >
> > > With
DynImage we can pre-load images...
> > >
> >
> a) Can we use an image which contains more than one images in
a
> > row.. and
> > > take the images one by
one?
> > >
> > > b) If I want to use an
image without the background what I must do in
> > >
DynImage object?
> > >
> > > c) If I use the
SetSize feature, what is the appropriate format for the
> >
> image, in order to look nice when changes size?
> >
>
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > >
Andreas Gortsilas
> > >
> > >
> >
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