> I
so glad this is being discussed by the coding gods. Inquiring minds want
to know.
I'm hoping your
being synicall here ...
Anyway, there might
be problems on IE5.5 machines when you have empty-layers, I haven't tested this,
but I got thinking that there's a dummy-image placed into the background if a
layer is empty on ie5.5 (this to fix the bug with events not
triggering) This might also mean that if this layer is
moved/resized/whatever the hour-glass appears because it want to load the
dummy image.
Not sure if this
happens, because the image is actually javascript:null
so it should not try to load anything at all.
The problem with NS6
is a problem in the eventlistener.. I think Jordi fixed this problem for IE, and
seeing that most things work the same under IE5 and NS6 the same fix should be
possible for NS6 (problem is that the image receives the event, and this screws
up the layer's event handling because it can't recognise the IMG's layer object
parent)
Pascal Bestebroer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Software
ontwikkelaar
Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
http://www.oibv.com
Some feedback... I get the same ghost hourglass while dragging
images added with both setHTML AND setBgImage on my 200 meg
machine.
I have started using setBgImage because ns6 doesn't drag an image added
with setHTML, unless I put an empty layer handle on it.
Glen
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 3:38
AM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help]
Images...
Doug,
breath in, breath out...
It's very obvious that the pressures of your
sites pending deadline are leeching into your tone and tenor within the
group.
We all learn here, every day. It's one of
the profound benefits of being involved in this type of
collaboration.
To expect a literary manifest of total and
absolute wisdom in a field of endeavor as complex as this is asking a tad
much; even from the notables we have the privilege of working with
here.
The truth be told about setBgImage is that the
bug was with NS when using "events" and setBgImage together. There is
no bug in IE what Pascal is referring to is an "optimization" and
"efficiency" as related to a interactive game.
Now, that said.. where's my friggen "rock
at!
Ray
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 7:48
PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help]
Images...
> a) The fastest way for loading images is
caching them, so load them into
> dynlayers at the beginning of your
game, so that the browser has the image
> in it's cache.. after that
it will get it fast enough everytime.
>
> Also note, that
NEVER use setBgImage() to set the images in the
dynlayers,
THIS is why we need a more full
attempt to document the DynAPI.
I have at least 15 calls to
setBgImage().. noone told me IE had a weekness here...
> IE will reload the image everytime the
layer changes (size, position,etc..)
>
> b)
> I usually
just use DynLayer with setHTML to insert the image.. this is the
>
fastest object available (not sure how dynimage works, but since it's
an
> extra object it might be slower then using normal
layers)
I do agree here.. I have fond
that in the widgets I've played with, and in the examples I seen there has
been way too much of the "better mousetrap" syndrome.. In fact I almost
exclusivly use DynLayers now..
except in the rare occations
where I need to 'pack' the hight or width of an object (read
Label())
> c) BMP is not possible.. My opinion when doing web-games are
that your
> images must be as small as possible (as little amount of
colors needed, so
> 16 if possible), and if possible contain no
transparency.. this way the
> browser can handle it faster.. Also
make sure the image don't contain any
> extra white-space on the
edges, this is just wasted time for the browser to
> render the
space which is not there. GIF images use RLEncoding, so white
>
space is still processed even though it's not there.. and since browsers
are
> not doing a great job of rendering, try to make everything as
"easy" as
> possible for the browser.
again.. COMPRESS your graphics.. This CAN be
achieved without loss of image quality..
:-)
> Ofcourse backgrounds can be JPG with 16million colors (as
long as they don't > move) but again, areas of this background will
be re-renderd by the browser > when ever something passes over
them.. so use 256- color images when ever > possible. >
> > Pascal Bestebroer > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://www.dynamic-core.net>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens GORTSILAS
ANDREAS
> > Verzonden: zondag 28 januari 2001 11:44
> >
Aan: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'> > Onderwerp: RE: [Dynapi-Help] Images...
>
>
> >
> > a)=========
> > Imagine 32 pieces
which each of them has an image... I am looking
> > for a
way
> > to load them, quickly and efficiently...
>
>
> > I use DynImage.getImage(src) to get the image and then
load the
> > dynimage...
>
> oImg =
DynImage.getImage(src)
> >
var oDynImg = new DynImage();
>
> oDynImg.setSize(25,25);
>
> oDynImg.moveTo(iLeft,
iTop);
> >
oDynImg.setImage(oImg);
> >
DynAPI.document.addChild(oDynImg);
> >
> > Is it the
correct way to do it?
> >
> > Here I want to read the
images from one container image... I don't want to
> > show it
only...
> >
> > b)===========
> > If you
don't use DynImage what do you use? (for similar tasks)
>
>
> > c)===========
> > Gif, bmp, jpg, .... or what
ever...
> >
> > Andreas
> >
>
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
From: Pascal Bestebroer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 12:26 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Help] Images...
> >
>
>
> >
> >
> > a) use a child layer
containing the images in a main layer, clip the main
> > layer to
the size of the image, and move the child layer to the correct
>
> (negative) x,y position to show the other images. (don't have
>
> code to show,
> > but this is the idea behind it)
>
> b) no clue (never used dynimage)
> > c) not sure what you
mean, but I think that resedrawing the image (using
> > setHTML)
and then set the width and height values of the image to the same
>
> width and height of the layer.
> >
> > cya
>
>
> > Pascal Bestebroer
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> http://www.dynamic-core.net> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk
bericht-----
> > > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens GORTSILAS
ANDREAS
> > > Verzonden: zondag 28 januari 2001 10:01
>
> > Aan: Dynapi-Help Mailing List (E-mail)
> > >
Onderwerp: [Dynapi-Help] Images...
> > >
> >
>
> > > With DynImage we can pre-load images...
>
> >
> > > a) Can we use an image which contains more
than one images in a
> > row.. and
> > > take the
images one by one?
> > >
> > > b) If I want to use
an image without the background what I must do in
> > >
DynImage object?
> > >
> > > c) If I use the
SetSize feature, what is the appropriate format for the
> > >
image, in order to look nice when changes size?
> > >
>
> > Thank you
> > >
> > > Andreas
Gortsilas
> > >
> > >
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