Hi Michael, Mark, I'll give you an example why I find autosaving consistent. When you change the name of interface, it could affect hundreds of files at once. The other editors/IDEs don't have this problem, because their only 'mass file change' feature is search and replace within project, which by definition should be used with care.
SOLUTION 1: Open all files and let me choose which ones I want to save PROBLEMS: You'll end out of memory, the Swing will bog down, if you haven't constrained the tabs in one row, there might be not enough space for the tabs on the screen SOLUTION 2: Load the modified files in memory, but do not save them, until I hit Save PROBLEMS: What about if your machine crashes or if you just kill the process by accident? SOLUTION 3: Autosave all files which are not currently open in the editor, let me choose which and when to save the files open in the editor COMMENT: It's almost done, just have to put a single 'Save' button and perhaps 'Save As'. As long as we have the 'Save on frame activation/deactivation' option, it wouldn't bother me. Just don't put these buttons on the toolbar... (In fact I'd give 15 votes on a 'Customizable toolbar' request, but I'm too lazy to submit one :) my 2c dimiter Michael Morett wrote: > Mark, > > I gotta agree with you on this one. I also sometimes open "a file, hack it > up, and then close without saving the changes." My current solution is to > use WinCVS and perform an Update | Get Clean Copy since this option isn't > available from within IDEA. > > I dont use LCVS and dont know much about the benefits of going this route so > I cant comment on the rollback thing. > > But for my particular situation, I have to rely on a second program (WinCVS) > to undo a save I didn't want done in the firstplace. I will stand alone or > stand with you and hold fast to the notion that under IDEA shouldn't be > making that decision for me, or remove me from the process of making the > decision of if I want to save a file. > > I dont understand the aggresive defensive posture of those defending this > "feature". I've got auto-sync turned off for performance reasons and so > when I do a CVS Update, I'm immediately out of sync. The world doesn't end. > I do manual syncs when needed. If the biggest negative of having a per-file > save is an out of sync environment, then why allow me to turn off auto sync > if it's that important? > > Bottom line: if I have files A and B and I want to save changes to A and > not B, I can't do it in IDEA. That's sad. Does the current mode of > operation hinder my work? No. I work around it. But it's a pain in the > ass to have to do this. Why make me save changes to A and B and force me to > undo B? > > I'll see you at the stoning ceremony Mark... > > > "markshotwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Well, I am not against the auto-save and the LVCS, especially as I know more > about it. I do think that it can be improved somewhat; the right click to > rollback was not very intuitive to me. If anything, I think that the > feature can be expanded and improved even more, to make it more valuable. > > MS Word has auto-save, as does Excel, just a different implementation of it; > roll back is primarily by closing the file without saving it. > > And, sometimes, I open a file, hack it up, copy out what I wanted, and then > close without saving the changes. Just an old(bad) habit I still use. :) > > It just happens to be how things currently are and what I am used to; but I > can also get use to some other things(and have) > > However, with that said, I really conceded the debate few posts back(not > that it really did much good); I actually went on a tangent a while back. :) > > Though, I find a certain irony in all of this. > > Truth is, I am more concerned about some of the interface features. It is > one of the reasons I use JCreator over WASD; more customizable and mouse > friendly. JCreator may not(yet) be as fancy as IDEA, but for the price, it > gets the job done nicely; the current lack of any real JSP support is my > only main issue with it. But, at the same time, some of the features in > IDEA are very nice, especially the JSP support. > > Sometimes, for me(and this is something that is not going to change) IDEA is > a royal pain to use, cause I can't do some things easily(for me). I would > absolutely love to put a find next and find previous button on the toolbar; > I know some people don't. I constantly go for it, but it isn't there. > Having to stop and reach for F3 screws up my momentum and flow; and to be > honest, annoys me to no end. Sometimes, I am literally working in bed, with > my laptop and optical mouse(I love those things), in dim light, and > constantly have to change hand positions just causes me more problems; such > as my all too common ctrl-c when I meant to ctrl-v(which in IDEA causes me > another problem). > > I really am trying to like the product, but I will like it because it works > well for me; not because anyone else tells me that it does/should. > Basically, all of the fancy features in the world are not of much value if > they are not convenient to me. > > And, I still say I am seriously disturbed. :) > > > _______________________________________________ Eap-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.jetbrains.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-bugs
