I do that as well... but instead of relying on using an in-memory unsaved version as my 'version control', I just revert the changes if I need to do something like that. This is what version control is for. Now that I'm used to it, it seems really weird to use a transient unsaved file in memory (inconsistent with the disk image) as some sort of version control or poor-man's "undo". I defintely prefer never having to worry about a saved state, and knowing that all changes are always recoverable via undo or via version control system. I can concentrate more on the code and less on what the state of each editor is. It's a VERY positive change, imho. It didn't take me THAT long to get used to it, though like you, it seemed very weird to me at first because I was so used to worrying about nonsense like that. Not any more.
"Michael Morett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message amfjp5$gin$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:amfjp5$gin$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Mark, > > I gotta agree with you on this one. I also sometimes open "a file, hack it > up, and then close without saving the changes." My current solution is to > use WinCVS and perform an Update | Get Clean Copy since this option isn't > available from within IDEA. > > I dont use LCVS and dont know much about the benefits of going this route so > I cant comment on the rollback thing. > > But for my particular situation, I have to rely on a second program (WinCVS) > to undo a save I didn't want done in the firstplace. I will stand alone or > stand with you and hold fast to the notion that under IDEA shouldn't be > making that decision for me, or remove me from the process of making the > decision of if I want to save a file. > > I dont understand the aggresive defensive posture of those defending this > "feature". I've got auto-sync turned off for performance reasons and so > when I do a CVS Update, I'm immediately out of sync. The world doesn't end. > I do manual syncs when needed. If the biggest negative of having a per-file > save is an out of sync environment, then why allow me to turn off auto sync > if it's that important? > > Bottom line: if I have files A and B and I want to save changes to A and > not B, I can't do it in IDEA. That's sad. Does the current mode of > operation hinder my work? No. I work around it. But it's a pain in the > ass to have to do this. Why make me save changes to A and B and force me to > undo B? > > I'll see you at the stoning ceremony Mark... > > > "markshotwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Well, I am not against the auto-save and the LVCS, especially as I know more > about it. I do think that it can be improved somewhat; the right click to > rollback was not very intuitive to me. If anything, I think that the > feature can be expanded and improved even more, to make it more valuable. > > MS Word has auto-save, as does Excel, just a different implementation of it; > roll back is primarily by closing the file without saving it. > > And, sometimes, I open a file, hack it up, copy out what I wanted, and then > close without saving the changes. Just an old(bad) habit I still use. :) > > It just happens to be how things currently are and what I am used to; but I > can also get use to some other things(and have) > > However, with that said, I really conceded the debate few posts back(not > that it really did much good); I actually went on a tangent a while back. :) > > Though, I find a certain irony in all of this. > > Truth is, I am more concerned about some of the interface features. It is > one of the reasons I use JCreator over WASD; more customizable and mouse > friendly. JCreator may not(yet) be as fancy as IDEA, but for the price, it > gets the job done nicely; the current lack of any real JSP support is my > only main issue with it. But, at the same time, some of the features in > IDEA are very nice, especially the JSP support. > > Sometimes, for me(and this is something that is not going to change) IDEA is > a royal pain to use, cause I can't do some things easily(for me). I would > absolutely love to put a find next and find previous button on the toolbar; > I know some people don't. I constantly go for it, but it isn't there. > Having to stop and reach for F3 screws up my momentum and flow; and to be > honest, annoys me to no end. Sometimes, I am literally working in bed, with > my laptop and optical mouse(I love those things), in dim light, and > constantly have to change hand positions just causes me more problems; such > as my all too common ctrl-c when I meant to ctrl-v(which in IDEA causes me > another problem). > > I really am trying to like the product, but I will like it because it works > well for me; not because anyone else tells me that it does/should. > Basically, all of the fancy features in the world are not of much value if > they are not convenient to me. > > And, I still say I am seriously disturbed. :) > > > _______________________________________________ Eap-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.jetbrains.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-bugs
