+1 (Oh, I have to say why? Ok...)
I want IDEA to replace as many tools on my machine as possible. Notepad (for quick file editing), Together (*basic* UML views), Multi-Edit (multiple file-type support), hex-editor (duh), file explorer (for launching other tools based on extension), etc. etc. etc.. Just being the best Java IDE is not my idea (!) of the best tool. In my mind the best tool is the one that helps me to be more productive at all the tasks I work on. Having to switch between tools is one factor that slows me down. Of course IDEA is the best Java IDE. We're just greedy. :) -sms -----Original Message----- From: Alain Ravet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Eap-features] type 1 people are wrong So, apparently there are 2 kinds of active posters on this list : type 1 : the IDEA_is_an_editor_and_I_want_to_keep_my_editor_slim type 2 : the IDEA_is_a_tool_and_I_want_it_to_be_more_than_an_Editor__a_lot_more type 1 people will -1 or -10 any high level or visual feature request, because 1- they are afraid IDEA developpers could postpone the next hundred editor tweekings they have in mind, and think they could not be productive without them. 2- they are afraid IDEA will become slow 3- they are afraid IDEA will become big You don't mix up requirements collections with time, cost, architecture and technology. You just tell what you need. I say type 1 people are wrong, and here is why: point 1 : Intellij development team size is not your business. It's theirs. point 2 : have some faith, in Intellij, your VM vendor and Intel (or..). Don't tell me me you fear they would have to rewrite in in C. Look at Together : it's big, it's fast, and it does code auditing. point 3 : Who cares if the next EAP is 20M big. If you download the eap build at 56K, poor you. This is 2001, year of cable speed, cheap hard disk and cheap memory. I say type 2 people are right. IDEA is a tool, and I use it to solve problems, using java technology. Java technology is becoming more complex by the day. Why does IDEA force me to edit all those xml configuration files as ascii text? Do you really think it's less important than tweeking the Search function? BTW, I wonder why it was so urgent to integrate .. CVS : I still use WinCVS, next to IDEA, because... well, you know... JUnit : it just brought very very little extra confort, but absolutely no new functionalilty. SourceSafe : see CVS, above. Even with VB, I know many programmers who preferred to use the standalone, non integrated version. They still do, with IDEA, and they don't plan to change. OTOS: - Dead Code finder : ONLY IDEA CAN DO THIS FOR ME. What are you waiting for? - simple UML class diagram : I hate having to launch together just to have a quick 1 mile high view of the structure. - class templates - metrics based auditing - smell detector ... We have to think ROI here, guys. I'm sure you could tweek the editor till 2010, but it wouldn't help us write better software. The editor is no longer n�1 when you think ROI. It's almost good enough. I love the keyboard, but I want higher level features. And some visuals too (the class hierarchy browser is not a gadget. This is the way to go) OK, shoot me. Or ignore me. Alain Ravet PS: I'm not sure feature request voting would be such a good idea. This list is where things happens. Here, when you say +1, you must say why. -------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me and permanently delete the original and any copy of any e-mail and any printout thereof. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. NOTICE REGARDING PRIVACY AND CONFIDENTIALITY Knight Trading Group may, at its discretion, monitor and review the content of all e-mail communications. _______________________________________________ Eap-features mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-features
