> Let's always improve IDEA and add great new high level features in a > reasonable way. As long as the basic IDEA functionality does not > suffer from > new features, e.g. getting slower, it's okay. But please don't forget low > level functionality that makes us develop faster and gives us more comfort > as well: e.g. creating missing directories, checking compiler > dependencies, > multiple output paths, etc. In my opinion adding more and more high level > stuff won't make IDEA better as long as important low level stuff you need > every day is suffering from it. Otherwise every new feature is always > appreciated. :-)
I could not say it better. IDEA is a great tool but it needs improvements in the basics. For me the benefits from Pandora (refactoring and VSS) was marginal. Looking forward for the next release. Hope it will allow me to rerun/redebug my app with a single mouse click, currently it required up to 5. Same goes for the debugger, functionality wise is good, but its usability leaves much to be desired (special inspectors for basic classes, more user friendly navigation in the thread/frame tree and synchronization between the debugger tabs, single click inspection of an objects, etc). Tal > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Descher > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 12:50 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: AW: [Eap-features] type 1 people are wrong > > > > front of us. Whatever happens, it'll be somewhat of a mix > between the two, > > my personal hope, of course, is that it's in my favour! > > That's a really good statement to show the general problem of this > discussion. IDEA will never be able so satisfy the needs of all users. You > would have to put thousands of tools, options, configurations, > etc. in IDEA. > And this would - no doubt for me - kill this absolutely great IDE. In my > opinion any piece of software will get big, slow and useless if you try to > integrate tons of features that are big enough for fat standalone > applications. > > Most of us here do not want to see wizards like in Windows or JBuilder in > IDEA. And I think the reason for this is: if you know what you are doing - > and I suppose most developers using IDEA do - you're way faster without > wizards. > > If I think about why IDEA lets me do my work much faster and > better it's the > great editor with its tiny little helper features. Of course > refactoring is > great as well. No doubt. And I also believe I would make some use of the - > this is what the original discussion was about - "code smell" detection > feature. > > But we should not divide users here in 2 categories: the ones > that just want > a cool editor with nothing else and the others that want a blown > application > that can do everything with some mouse clicks. I guess there are no such 2 > categories but the latest postings look like the discussion is about these > two alternatives. > > Let's always improve IDEA and add great new high level features in a > reasonable way. As long as the basic IDEA functionality does not > suffer from > new features, e.g. getting slower, it's okay. But please don't forget low > level functionality that makes us develop faster and gives us more comfort > as well: e.g. creating missing directories, checking compiler > dependencies, > multiple output paths, etc. In my opinion adding more and more high level > stuff won't make IDEA better as long as important low level stuff you need > every day is suffering from it. Otherwise every new feature is always > appreciated. :-) > > Michael > > > _______________________________________________ > Eap-features mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-features _______________________________________________ Eap-features mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-features
