Hmm, that last sentence should rather be "I do not think of IDEA as root
of the freezing problem _in my case_". Didn't want to say that there is no 
freezing editor problem in IDEA at all (as the current thread shows).

Sorry,
       Peter

Peter Seebeck wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> got the same problem and we're using ClearCase, too. Although with only one
> mapped view, but that's the one I'm working one.
> I don't know, whether this is only local to our ClearCase installation or
> if this applies to ClearCase in genereal. Even on normal usage ClearCase takes
> sometimes a longer time for doing checkouts. In combination with IDEA this yields
> to some awful effects like:
> - Sometimes during synchronization (if this is, what the waterglass icon on the right
>   of the editor shows), editing freezes and it takes a longer time, possibly
>   yielding an IOException that the file could not be opened, leaving an empty editor.
>   The file in the mapped view appears to be normal.
>   BTW: If this happens, I must close the project as reopening in IDEA still
>        shows the empty editor. Synchronization doesn't seem to be able to
>        reread such "lost" files (now appearing with a J icon
>        in my project tree). Would be fine, if there would be a possibility
>        to check this file again.
> - The ClearCase check out in the version tree fails more often if the version
>   tree is invoked via IDEA (which CANNOT be a problem of IDEA, but it seems to
>   me that checking out in the Windows Explorer usually does not fail).
> 
> But that seems all to be a problem of our ClearCase installation, so I do
> not think of IDEA as root of the freezing problem.
> 
> Peter
> 
> Michael Kirby wrote:
> >
> > Oneo f the intellij guys responded a while ago and mentioned that sometimes the
> > long pauses might have something to do with mapped drives.  If you have a lot of
> > mapped drives, it takes a while to do something.  I'm not exactly sure what the
> > cause would be, but it would be nice to know.
> >
> > I use clearcase for much of my work, which (in my environment) means tons of
> > mapped drives.  Perhaps this is a reason. (although the particular view I'm using 
>is
> > a snapshot view, and Intellij is monitoring files local to the disk).
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On 28 Jan 2002 at 10:48, Jim Freeman wrote:
> >
> > > Mike,
> > > I'm actually not running my app when this happens, just editing.  Many
> > > other apps were running (though idling).  This time allocated memory
> > > (for the entire system)  was about 70MB above my physical RAM size.  I
> > > had been working in the other apps for a while, so it's very likely
> > > the idle Idea app + data got paged out.  There have been other times
> > > in the past when it froze while I was actively working in Idea, and
> > > system memory was less than physical memory. Unfortunately I don't
> > > have the details of the configuration at that time.
> > >
> > > I agree with your other response on this thread that in this case GC
> > > may be  touching a ton of pages, and waiting for the pages to come
> > > back in off disk is what freezes the app.  I guess that's the big
> > > price one pays for your code not having to manually free memory.
> > >
> > > I'd sure like to somehow confirm there isn't some kind of file sync
> > > going on (vs. a GC).
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > From:         Michael Kirby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:28 AM
> > > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject:      RE: [Eap-list] IDE often  freezes during editing
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 24 Jan 2002 at 17:01, Jim Freeman wrote:
> > >
> > > > According to the lower right corner, the heap usage is way below the
> > > > allocated heap size, so shouldn't any GC be on a low priority
> > > > thread?
> > > >
> > > > Other notes:  I have 512M RAM & 1Ghz CPU,  JVM_ARGS=-ms16m -mx150m.
> > >
> > >
> > > How much free memory?  How big is your Application?  Do you have any
> > > other applications running at the same time?  I find that with
> > > intellij, my application, and exceed, I run about 450 megabytes of
> > > swap used.  We about about 1200 classes.  You have 2000.  I would
> > > guess you need about 600 megabytes of swap for a
> > >
> > > minimal configuration, and more if you run other applications, or if
> > > your java app uses a lot of memory.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > >
> > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:       Lee Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent:       Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:58 PM
> > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > Subject:    RE: [Eap-list] IDE often  freezes during editing
> > > >
> > > > Could this just be the garbage collector running? If the bar graph
> > > > in the lower right-hand corner saying "xM of yM" where x is close to
> > > > y?
> > > >
> > > > If that's the case, tune the settings on the Java environment you
> > > > use to startup the editor.
> > > >
> > > > --lee
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Jim Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:48 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: [Eap-list] IDE often freezes during editing
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I posted an earlier message on 1/18 about freezing during
> > > > > compiles, but
> > > > > I'm also seeing this during normal editing.  It usually freezes
> > > > > (no response, no repaint, etc) about for 20 seconds right in the
> > > > > middle of typing or clicking on anything.    During the freeze:
> > > > >
> > > > > - no other app is modifying class files, source files, or jars in
> > > > > the project - there isn't any "synchronizing..." message on the
> > > > > status line (though maybe that's because it can't repaint??) -
> > > > > disk is very busy. - system CPU usage is mostly idle, except for
> > > > > Idea's java.exe.  All other apps running are very responsive.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the reason I'm the only one complaining about this is
> > > > > because I have
> > > > > a large project size (about 2000 individual source and class
> > > > > files)?? I'm almost to the point where I'm going switch to another
> > > > > IDE rather than continue to live with this for large projects.
> > > > > I'd much rather stay with IDEA if this can get fixed, or at the
> > > > > very least provide a reliable way of notifying the user that the
> > > > > freeze is in progress.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm running build 540, but have seen this problem in some earlier
> > > > > builds.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > > >
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