We have significant clearcase delays. This is why I use a snapshot view. No such delays propagate to IDEA.
(as an aside, it is ironic, that Rational is now selling a stripped down version of clearcase that provides only snapshot views). Dynamic views are too painful to use with intellij or any other editor for that matter. Our vobs are on unix, and I think that contributes heavily to the slow-down. From what I understand all-NT Vobs & views are significantly faster. Mike On 29 Jan 2002 at 8:22, Peter Seebeck wrote: > Hi, > > got the same problem and we're using ClearCase, too. Although with > only one mapped view, but that's the one I'm working one. I don't > know, whether this is only local to our ClearCase installation or if > this applies to ClearCase in genereal. Even on normal usage ClearCase > takes sometimes a longer time for doing checkouts. In combination with > IDEA this yields to some awful effects like: - Sometimes during > synchronization (if this is, what the waterglass icon on the right > of the editor shows), editing freezes and it takes a longer time, > possibly yielding an IOException that the file could not be opened, > leaving an empty editor. The file in the mapped view appears to be > normal. BTW: If this happens, I must close the project as reopening > in IDEA still > shows the empty editor. Synchronization doesn't seem to be able > to reread such "lost" files (now appearing with a J icon in my > project tree). Would be fine, if there would be a possibility > to check this file again. > - The ClearCase check out in the version tree fails more often if the > version > tree is invoked via IDEA (which CANNOT be a problem of IDEA, but it > seems to me that checking out in the Windows Explorer usually does > not fail). > > But that seems all to be a problem of our ClearCase installation, so I > do not think of IDEA as root of the freezing problem. > > Peter > > Michael Kirby wrote: > > > > Oneo f the intellij guys responded a while ago and mentioned that > > sometimes the long pauses might have something to do with mapped > > drives. If you have a lot of mapped drives, it takes a while to do > > something. I'm not exactly sure what the cause would be, but it > > would be nice to know. > > > > I use clearcase for much of my work, which (in my environment) means > > tons of mapped drives. Perhaps this is a reason. (although the > > particular view I'm using is a snapshot view, and Intellij is > > monitoring files local to the disk). > > > > Mike > > > > On 28 Jan 2002 at 10:48, Jim Freeman wrote: > > > > > Mike, > > > I'm actually not running my app when this happens, just editing. > > > Many other apps were running (though idling). This time allocated > > > memory (for the entire system) was about 70MB above my physical > > > RAM size. I had been working in the other apps for a while, so > > > it's very likely the idle Idea app + data got paged out. There > > > have been other times in the past when it froze while I was > > > actively working in Idea, and system memory was less than physical > > > memory. Unfortunately I don't have the details of the > > > configuration at that time. > > > > > > I agree with your other response on this thread that in this case > > > GC may be touching a ton of pages, and waiting for the pages to > > > come back in off disk is what freezes the app. I guess that's the > > > big price one pays for your code not having to manually free > > > memory. > > > > > > I'd sure like to somehow confirm there isn't some kind of file > > > sync going on (vs. a GC). > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Michael Kirby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:28 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [Eap-list] IDE often freezes during editing > > > > > > > > > > > > On 24 Jan 2002 at 17:01, Jim Freeman wrote: > > > > > > > According to the lower right corner, the heap usage is way below > > > > the allocated heap size, so shouldn't any GC be on a low > > > > priority thread? > > > > > > > > Other notes: I have 512M RAM & 1Ghz CPU, JVM_ARGS=-ms16m > > > > -mx150m. > > > > > > > > > How much free memory? How big is your Application? Do you have > > > any other applications running at the same time? I find that with > > > intellij, my application, and exceed, I run about 450 megabytes of > > > swap used. We about about 1200 classes. You have 2000. I would > > > guess you need about 600 megabytes of swap for a > > > > > > minimal configuration, and more if you run other applications, or > > > if your java app uses a lot of memory. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Lee Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:58 PM To: > > > > '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Eap-list] IDE often > > > > freezes during editing > > > > > > > > Could this just be the garbage collector running? If the bar > > > > graph in the lower right-hand corner saying "xM of yM" where x > > > > is close to y? > > > > > > > > If that's the case, tune the settings on the Java environment > > > > you use to startup the editor. > > > > > > > > --lee > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Jim Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:48 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: [Eap-list] IDE often freezes during editing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I posted an earlier message on 1/18 about freezing during > > > > > compiles, but I'm also seeing this during normal editing. It > > > > > usually freezes (no response, no repaint, etc) about for 20 > > > > > seconds right in the middle of typing or clicking on anything. > > > > > During the freeze: > > > > > > > > > > - no other app is modifying class files, source files, or jars > > > > > in the project - there isn't any "synchronizing..." message on > > > > > the status line (though maybe that's because it can't > > > > > repaint??) - disk is very busy. - system CPU usage is mostly > > > > > idle, except for Idea's java.exe. All other apps running are > > > > > very responsive. > > > > > > > > > > Is the reason I'm the only one complaining about this is > > > > > because I have > > > > > a large project size (about 2000 individual source and class > > > > > files)?? I'm almost to the point where I'm going switch to > > > > > another IDE rather than continue to live with this for large > > > > > projects. I'd much rather stay with IDEA if this can get > > > > > fixed, or at the very least provide a reliable way of > > > > > notifying the user that the freeze is in progress. > > > > > > > > > > I'm running build 540, but have seen this problem in some > > > > > earlier builds. > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Eap-list mailing list > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Eap-list mailing list > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Eap-list mailing list > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-list > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To obtain my PGP public key, mail "SEND PUB KEY" in the > > > subject to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Eap-list mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-list > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Eap-list mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-list > > > > > > > --- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To obtain my PGP public key, mail "SEND PUB KEY" in the > > subject to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Eap-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-list > > _______________________________________________ > Eap-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-list > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] To obtain my PGP public key, mail "SEND PUB KEY" in the subject to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" _______________________________________________ Eap-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-list
