Hello Ecolog,
Here are my thoughts, written 11 PM from Boulder, CO.

Grad school is indeed audacious, and not a default choice.
As someone who spent 3 years on the 'dark side' (academic
admin) I know that there are *huge* differences among labs.
Some labs are very happy and students move to productive
professional lives.  Other labs are miserable.

My advice is, ask yourself why you are going to grad
school.  Then use the web to investigate labs. In addition
to contacting the prof, contact students in the lab and
ask them about their experience.  Like me, some profs 
encourage  prospective students to contact current and 
former students (maybe I'm weird).  

By way, the numbers on NSERC (Canada) success rates quoted 
below are misleading.  Success rates are low in some 
programs, well above 70% in others.  For grad students, most
universities in Canada offer 20-25K/ year in science, if you
meet academic standards and are accepted.  It's not
princely, but then it's only 2 years for MSc, if you 
find the right lab.  And it's mostly or all a stipend.
It's not full time TA.

David S.
http://www.mun.ca/osc/dschneider/



Quoting "Aaron T. Dossey" <[email protected]>:

> Actually, I would strongly recommend AGAINST grad school, or grad school 
> only as a last resort.  There are many ways to achieve a successful and 
> fruitful career while following your dreams, and many roads that do not 
> lead through a stint as a temporary under-paid technician/piece of 
> equipment (ie: grad student and postdoc/postech/postemp).
> 
> First, figure out what you want to do, then investigate what it takes to 
> get there.  You'll be surprised at how few careers actually require a 
> Ph.D., and how few careers which do require one actually exist/are 
> available.
> 
> Good luck!
> ATD of ATB
> 
> -- 

Here is the article in Chronicle of Higher Ed.

http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/career_magazine/previous_issues/articles/2012_09_28/caredit.a1200108

> 
> 
> 
> On 10/16/2012 11:38 PM, Lindsay Veazey wrote:
> > As one of many hopeful individuals trying to find an open program in which
> to
> > begin an advanced degree, I'd also like to point out the pitiful state of
> > scientific funding in North America. The current NSERC funding success rate
> is
> > below 8%, and the NSF success rate hovers around 20%. Additionally, in my
> > discussions with students of all levels, both current and (hopefully)
> > prospective, I've noticed that funding has essentially dried up for M.Sc
> > candidates, and is not much better for Ph.D candidates.
> >
> > I'm wondering if any subscribers have recommendations for programs abroad,
> > like MESPOM, that welcome foreign students instead of stack the deck
> against
> > their entry.
> >
> > Dr. Dossey, thank you for a well written submission that rings all too
> true.
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Aaron T. Dossey, Ph.D.
> Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
> Founder/Owner: All Things Bugs
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