On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 09:45 PM, David Ethell wrote:

> I think you're still missing the point. They aren't saying ECS is a
> success as a platform and objectivehtml won't be. They are saying ECS is
> a success as far as an open source project, but not as a platform for
> developing web apps. I think Jon would say that objectivehtml may be
> every bit as successful of an open-source project as ECS has been and
> maybe more so, but that doesn't change the fact the method of using Java
> objects to code HTML is out and MVC templatized approaches are in. The
> project may be a great implementation of a bad model.

very well put david. i wish that i could have said it that well :)

> Of course, as Jon and others may remember, I'm one of those ones still
> using the bad model even though I know it's the bad model so there will
> likely be some folks who will use objectivehtml. But those folks will be
> the minority compared to an approach like Turbine/Velocity/etc.

- robert


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