On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 07:40 AM, keithwong wrote:
>> <sigh> is there any need to take things *so* personally? </sigh> >> > > Sorry Rob.. sarcasm doesn't go well with me. > >> please take the trouble the find out who you're flaming before starting >> a >> war that you're going to loose. for example, try www.google.com and >> search >> for '"jon stevens"+ java'. at the moment, jon's being really pretty >> constructive - if you take the time to discuss things with him in a >> mature >> way, jon has a huge amount to teach you about writing frameworks. > > thanks for google tip.. now i have a picture of Jon, cool.. AFAIK jon was the one who taught me that. > >> >> finally FYI ecs isn't a failed project - just a mature one. there is a >> difference. >> > > and these are the words from Jon himself "That is why this project is > nearly > dead..." ?? you need to understand that dead != failed. open source lives by contributions - users talk on the list, developer submit patches and committers commit code. ecs is a mature project. the only real improvements would be to make the code run faster and improve some elements of the design (this is the ecs2 outline) - but these aren't issues for most users. (there was an unexpected and innovative patch relatively recently but unfortunately i didn't feel able to take the positive design decision and commit it into the core.) in many ways, ecs is a success. ecs is relatively bug-free and is good at it's job - creating marked up text in code. it's just that this doesn't seem very exciting any more. - robert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>