My error, ANSI accredited the developer of X.12 to create the standard.


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At 03:27 PM 1/13/2005 -0600, Michael Mattias wrote:

> > In other words, DISA (on behalf of X12) is (probably) the only "legal"
> > source for machine readable X12 standards to be used in a commercial
> > product.  X12  has insisted on having the raw table data copyrighted -
> > and charging an arm and a leg for it.
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>(I am not a lawyer). (And my late sainted mother was still quite proud of me.)
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>AFAIK, the data format 'of itself'  is public domain; meaning all DISA may 
>copyright is that data "as fixed in tangible media."
>(fixing in tangible media is a requirement for copyright, anyway).
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>I do not know where a copyright lawyer would come down on this, but it 
>seems to me that if somehow manage to fix that data in
>tangible media in some format different than that offered by DISA, I'd be 
>perfectly legit to resell that form of the data.
>(Copyrighting that new format myself, thank you).
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>The one real "kicker" here though would be a license violation: without 
>ever having seen it, I'd bet dollars to donuts the license
>provided by DISA for the use of *any* of their copyright materials 
>prohibits the use of the material for the production of anything
>for resale... meaning of course, you'd have to be able to prove that you 
>did not use any DISA-copyright materials when you
>painstakingly hand-edited or or screen-scraped or PDF-parsed the 
>information in the first place.
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>All in all, an interesting question: How can a data format be a public 
>standard, but not be available except from a single supplier,
>who licenses it only for 'no-resale' use, resulting in the same net effect 
>as though that 'public' data were in fact owned
>intellectual property?
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>Then again, I may just totally misunderstand the 'publicness'  of the ANSI 
>ASC X12 standards.
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>Michael Mattias
>Tal Systems, Inc.
>Racine WI
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