Walter > You know, this is almost a 'crap shoot'. The costs I've been seeing > for us to do what we want to do (go AS2 for our top 5 TPs and > continue to use a VAN for the remaining TPs at a somewhat reduced > rate) seems to be relatively in the same ballpark. > If I look at those companies that have products that are DGI > certified and add up the upfront costs, per-TP costs, annual > maintenance and licensing costs, and reduced volume VAN rates then, > for us, they all seem to come in around $6k - $7k for AS2-related > stuff and $300 - $400 for 600 kcs/month.
How did you get to $6k - $7k for AS2? nSoftware AS2 is $500.00 for 5 licenses. Annual maintenance is about 20%, or $100.00 It is DGI certified. It would take most people a _maximum_ of a day to setup. Download, install, configure firewall, generate cert, setup partner(s). It can probably be done remotely ;-) Let's say $1k. You need a PC. I'll assume you have a reliable PC that you can leave on 24/7. That's a total of $1,500. Lets add 33% and make it an even $2k. How did you get to $6k ????? I'm not trying to be obtuse here, but I have no financial interest in nSoftware. I simply want to get you (and my clients) the best possible deal. If I were in your shoes, that's what I would do... Once you have AS2, the additional cost is tiny. It's frustrating giving advice and having it totally ignored. Am I missing something here? > --- In [email protected], "James Hatcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You are talking about going down a slippery slope. > > > > If you lie to your customer in an official document you risk; > being disqualified as a supplier, getting fired, possible fraud or > other charges if anyone wanted to take it that far. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: w_cohen99 > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:47 AM > > Subject: [EDI-L] Re: Reducing/eliminating our EDI VAN > > > > > > Well that is a good point. The survey requires you to list it. > > Who's to say that listing something that you don't have/use is a > > problem? Unless down the road if there are problems between you > and > > the tp and it is traced somehow back to your non-certified > software > > I wonder if the originator (or whomever wanted the > certification) > > would then have legal/monetary recourse. > > > > Walter > > --- In [email protected], "Carl Galgano" <cgalgano2@> wrote: > > > > > > How is your TP going to know what software you are using? > > > I for one think the who Drummond certification is a bunch of > > crap. This > > > reminds me of the uselessness added by the UCC a decade ago. I > > have > > > implement AS2 for many of my customers, and while the question > may > > be on a > > > survey, is there any way for the TP to really know? If it > works > > then it > > > works. > > > cjg > > > > > > > > > Carl J. Galgano > > > EDI Consulting Services, Inc. > > > 770-422-2995 > > > www.ediconsulting.com > > > > > > 600 Kennesaw Avenue > > > Suite 400 > > > Marietta, GA 30060 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Earl > > > Wertheimer > > > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 3:27 PM > > > To: w_cohen99; [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Re: Reducing/eliminating our EDI VAN > > > > > > Walter > > > > > > Wrong ;-) > > > FreeAS2 is nSoftware IP*Works v7. > > > http://www.drummondgroup.com/html-v2/as2-companies.html > > > <http://www.drummondgroup.com/html-v2/as2-companies.html> > > > > > > They've renamed the 'certification' to 'ebusinessready.org' > and > > linked it to > > > GS1. > > > Realistically, how many organizations would be able to provide > > > 'certification' > > > that their software is compatible? As far as I know, Drummond > (the > > writers > > > of the AS2 standard) is the only organization that do this > testing > > (for an > > > exhorbitant amount of money). > > > > > > If you search www.ebusinessready.org, you will find > > http://www.gs1us.org/ > > > <http://www.gs1us.org/> Of course a search on GS1 for AS2 or > > ebusinessready > > > on their site results in no matches. > > > This is yet another example of BS 'certification' that results > in > > no > > > additional benefit other than confusion. > > > > > > PS: I am an independent EDI consultant, and receive no > commission, > > etc, etc, > > > etc... > > > > > > > Freeas2 will not help me, as it is not compliant, a tleast > not > > via > > > > Drummond Group. > > > > > > > > Walter > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L% > 40yahoogroups.com> , > > Earl > > > Wertheimer <earlw@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Walter > > > > > > > > > > > My top 5 TPs state that I must buy a compliant (UCC / > > Drummond > > > > > > Group) EDIINT product in order to go AS2 with them and > most > > of > > > > these > > > > > > products are rather pricey. For instance Inovis > BizConnect > > is > > > > > > $4,500 for up to 25 TPs and $900/yr maintenance plus $1k > > remote > > > > > > install. Anyone making use of any other 'reasonably > priced' > > > > EDIINT > > > > > > products? > > > > > > > > > > http://www.freeas2.com/order.aspx > > > > > <http://www.freeas2.com/order.aspx> > > > > > 25 licenses (NOT TPs) for $999.00 > > > > > > > > > > the 1st is free ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some TPs may require 2 licenses. Keep that in mind. > > > > > > > > > > Earl Wertheimer > > > > > earlw@ > > > > > http://www.spe-edi.com <http://www.spe-edi.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject > > prefix: > > > > <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> > > > > > > > > Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests > for > > work: > > > <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix. > > > > Yahoo! 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