Jesse

I'm not as optimistic as you are.

Adobe has a royalty-free license for people writing .PDF tools.  By making the 
license free and giving Acrobat Reader away, they really made their file format 
very popular.

I know there are some X12 committee members here.  I would really like to know 
what is planned...




To:                     "Earl Wertheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Copies to:              [email protected]
From:                   "Jesse Sightler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date sent:              Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:36:27 -0500
Subject:                Re: [EDI-L] EDI documentation / spec software

> That sounds like it is in reference to the specs itself, rather than
> necessarily tools that work with it (though, there would certainly be some
> overlap).
> 
> I wish the standard were more open.
> 
> On 12/11/07, Earl Wertheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have been told that "people cannot copy and enter X12 data into other
> > products or on paper and redistribute those guidelines unless they buy
> > table
> > data or software from companies who have purchased it. Rekeying X12 data
> > and
> > distributing it externally without buying the table data or software from
> > a
> > company that has purchased it like Foresight, Edifecs, or GEFEG is a
> > violation
> > of DISA IPR."
> >
> > I did a bit of research on the X12 site and found the following:
> >
> > http://www.x12.org/x12org/subcommittees/x12PDFMinutes/0706stcom_grm_draft.pdf
> >
> > "discussion on a proposed X12 metadata licensing program. This
> > program would be a non-dues revenue source through license fees for
> > non-members
> > who use ASC X12 metadata to produce their products. Non-member categories
> > include end-user, meta-data user, service provider, end developer and
> > software
> > developer. If the licensing program is approved, DISA will send letters to
> >
> > potential licensees asserting that the companies or individuals have
> > violated
> > X12.s intellectual property rights and must cease and desist unless the
> > organization/individual becomes a licensee."
> >
> > "A motion was made, seconded and approved to create a detailed X12
> > meta-data
> > licensing program. The document would include a sample letter, suggested
> > prices
> > and a listing of the potential population to pursue. The document must
> > include
> > a detailed description of how the program would work. 8-approved,
> > 0-opposed and
> > 1-abstained."
> >
> > Mike, John... any comments?
> >
> > Is X12 going to force programmers who develop X12 tools to pay a licencing
> > fee?
> >
> > This came up when I replied to Lowell, who was looking for EDI specs.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] <EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> > [email protected] <EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
> > > Of Earl Wertheimer
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:12 AM
> > > To: Lowell Porter; [email protected] <EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [EDI-L] EDI documentation / spec software
> > >
> > > Lowell
> > >
> > > You can use anything from Notepad to Excel. I've seen lots of
> > formats.
> > > As long as it's readable and clear, why worry.
> > >
> > > We have links to hundreds of online specs at
> > > http://spe-edi.com/links.html
> > >
> > > Just find something similar and make a copy...
> > >
> > > What docs are you looking for? Perhaps someone can email you an
> > > existing document...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: <[email protected] <EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > From: "Lowell Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <lporter%40hdsmith.com>>
> > > Date sent: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:05:22 -0600
> > > Subject: [EDI-L] EDI documentation / spec software
> > >
> > > > I am in need of software that helps me generate specs that I can
> > > > give
> > > to my
> > > > trading partners. I know such software exists but am unsure where to
> > > look.
> > > > The only thing I could find was EDISIM, but that is too expensive
> > > > and
> > > does
> > > > more than I need it to. Is there anything else out there?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lowell
> >
> > Earl Wertheimer
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <earlw%40spe-edi.com>
> > http://www.spe-edi.com
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > 
> >
> 
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