[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Penley, Julie) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Thank you, Robert; I couldn't agree more. My understanding is that the > purpose of a dissertation is for the student to demonstrate his/her ability > to formulate an original research question, decide and execute on > appropriate methodology and analyses, and effectively communicate research > findings. Perhaps others on the list feel this way as well, which could > explain the relatively few responses to George's query. > > Guess I'm old-fashioned as well. > > Julie > > > Julie A. Penley, Ph.D. > Evaluation Coordinator > The University of Texas at El Paso > El Paso, TX 79968 > phone: (915) 747-5642
Julie: what's so bizarre is that the original poster sent me an email with a word document that was part of the dissertation. maybe you got one also. i consider it completely unethical to respond and completely inappropriate that he would think that i would respond. i really worry about the chairs out there and whether they realize their responsibilities to their graduate students. it seems to me that the chairs have dropped the ball when the students are allowed to get into the situation where they can't do their own work and are left dangling. somebody in this little group made a good point that maybe the analysis is short and sweet and that's OK. true, but the student should know that or be helped to understand that a good paper is one where the analysis fits the question, and we don't need to hunt around for extra bells and whistles. i then wonder if the student was forced to understand how the data would be analyzed before it was collected. it's too easy today to crunch stuff on the PC without the foggiest notion of what it means or whether it's appropriate. it seems to me the whole process is doing a disservice to the very "customers" it was supposed to help. BTW, i'm not sure the system is too terribly different from what it has been. it's just that Google helps us all share in it! maybe this is good, as it may help change it. so George really hit a nerve, it seems to me, and generated lots of insightful comments among us and, as you noted, very little feedback to his original question. thanks for your comments. have a great day JJD > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:12 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: dissertation results > > > Just a quick two-cents worth. > > Why is it that we often see this type of request for help? How is it that a > > student can get this far without receiviving proper help from his/her > dissertation committe and/or from the statistics department of the school? > > I can't believe that a school can let a student simply go out and collect > data without the student fully knowing what specific analysis is to be > applied and for what reason. > > Any comments or am I old-fashioned? > > GOD BLESS AMERICA > > Dr. Robert C. Knodt > 4949 Samish Way, #31 > Bellingham, WA 98226 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame." > . > . > ================================================================= > Instructions for joining and leaving this list, remarks about the > problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES, and archives are available at: > . http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ . > ================================================================= > . > . > ================================================================= > Instructions for joining and leaving this list, remarks about the > problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES, and archives are available at: > . http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ . > ================================================================= . . ================================================================= Instructions for joining and leaving this list, remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES, and archives are available at: . http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ . =================================================================
