Dennis and All -- Dennis argues (apparently) that random digit dialing is...
> i would argue (if that really is the case) that this is a > clear violation > of privacy rights ... since, if YOU tried to find someone's > number that > happens to be unlisted ... you are out of luck but ... it > appears that > gallup is not and does not operate by the same set of rules I don't quite follow this. First of all, what privacy right has been violated? The only thing the buyer bought was freedom from having his or her number listed. Buying a capability of filtering out calls from all but specified numbers would probably be much more expensive. If there existed a RIGHT to such privacy, we wouldn't have to buy it. I also don't see how Gallup is operating on a different set of rules. I could also randomly dial these 10-digit random numbers, though not as quickly, and violate (or not) those privacy rules. -- Chris Chris Olsen George Washington High School 2205 Forest Drive SE Cedar Rapids, IA (319)-398-2161 > -----Original Message----- > From: dennis roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 2:26 PM > To: Jill Binker; AP Statistics; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Gallup organization on polling methods > > > one paragraph in the description is rather disturbing ... > > ------------- > > The computer program then takes each phone exchange selected > and "creates" > an actual 10-digit phone number by adding random digits to > the exchanges. > There is no such thing as an unlisted phone exchange, so the randomly > created phone numbers include unlisted as well as listed numbers. The > result of all this is a sample of residential phone numbers > drawn in such a > way that every possible residential phone number in the > country, listed or > unlisted, has an equal and known probability of being > selected into the sample. > > ------------- > > this says that gallup (or the group doing the actual sampling > from the > phone # list) has access to UNlisted phone numbers ... and > will treat them > as though that level of privacy that is paid for between the > resident and > the phone company ... does not exist > > i would argue (if that really is the case) that this is a > clear violation > of privacy rights ... since, if YOU tried to find someone's > number that > happens to be unlisted ... you are out of luck but ... it > appears that > gallup is not and does not operate by the same set of rules > > i am sure this is a small % of the total but, it is > disturbing none the less > > the ? posed by jill is also important ... how many REAL phone > #s had to be > dialed BEFORE 1221 (the # they talked to) actually were contacted and > agreed to talk? i would venture to say ... twice or 3 times > or MORE than > the 1221 > > At 01:07 PM 12/3/2002, Jill Binker wrote: > >http://www.gallup.com/poll/FromtheEd/ed0211.asp > > > >I found this utterly fascinating. My only question now > (which I submitted > >to the author via the web site) is: what about people who > don't answer > >their phone? > > > >Still, more detail than I've ever seen before on their > pre-election polling. > > > >Enjoy! > >________________________________ > > > >Jill Binker > >Fathom Dynamic Statistics Software > >KCP Technologies, an affiliate of > >Key Curriculum Press > >1150 65th St > >Emeryville, CA 94608 > >1-800-995-MATH (6284) > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://www.keypress.com > >http://www.keycollege.com > >__________________________________ > >. > >. > >================================================================= > >Instructions for joining and leaving this list, remarks about the > >problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES, and archives are available at: > >. http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ . > >================================================================= > > _________________________________________________________ > dennis roberts, educational psychology, penn state university > 208 cedar, AC 8148632401, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://roberts.ed.psu.edu/users/droberts/drober~1.htm > > . > . > ================================================================= > Instructions for joining and leaving this list, remarks about the > problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES, and archives are available at: > . http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ . > ================================================================= > . . ================================================================= Instructions for joining and leaving this list, remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES, and archives are available at: . http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ . =================================================================
