dennis roberts said on 12/3/02 3:08 PM:

>tell me how joe and/or mary would be able to know all the numbers from the 
>phone book? and, ... even if they cut and pasted every little itty bitty # 
>into excel and sort the numbers and find the "holes" ... that tells them 
>WHAT are known to be listings ... not what are known to be  UNlisted 
>numbers ... if i find with my book ... that 8142384692 is not there ... how 
>do i even know 8142384692 exists? i don't

There have existed for decades so-called 'reverse' directories. Often 
they can be found in libraries. They may be less common now in the 
computer age. Reverse directories have all phone numbers listed in order 
of address to which they are assigned (as opposed to listed by name) with 
the person's name and all phone numbers listed in order and the names and 
addresses assigned to them. Therefore, if you know the address, you can 
find name and phone number. If you know the phone number, you can find 
name and address. I've used such a directory myself when I needed to 
contact a neighbor who had an unruly dog in his yard. Leaving a note on 
his door was not an option. Telephoning by this method was what I did. 

Unlisted numbers are not found in reverse directories.

Gallup is not doing anything to invade the privacy of persons with 
unlisted numbers. Gallup randomly gets a number and calls it. They get 
answer, or not; get responses, or no;, they don't even know if it was 
unlisted or not because: (and this is crucial) Gallup doesn't maintain a 
telephone directory. A telephone directory changes so fast that this 
method is better. Using an actual telephone directory at all would mean 
automatic undersampling of people who move a lot, which could mean an 
unrepresentative sample. 

Buying the 'unlisted' option from the phone company simply means you are 
telling them to not release the unique linking of your name to a 
particular phone number. You may think it odd to pay for this, because we 
have a right to privacy. Well, we do have a right to privacy, but that 
right is applied to *government* intrusion into our lives. Once we agree 
to a contractual buisness arangement with the telephone company we have 
given over to them certain rights. We have no right to a telephone 
excepting that the phone company can't discriminate based on race, 
religion, etc. Therefore, if we want a phone, we have to be willing to 
give up some privacy and we will have to pay to regain some of what we 
lost. Or we can shop for another company (now really possible because of 
cell phones)...

Speaking of cell phones... see my next post.

Paul
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