Freeman Jackson wrote:
> Jean-Baptiste Nizet wrote:
>
> > Freeman Jackson wrote:
> >
> > > Nagappan Palaniappan wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I am an EJB Developer working in London and our
> > > > business is B2B - Online Market place.
> > > >
> > > > Could you pls. tell me why everyone is using WEB Logic
> > > > server instead of J2EE from SUN even though it is
> > > > free.
> > >
> > > WebLogic's came out first and alot of people just don't even know about the EJB
> > > portion of J2EE. That's the only reason I can think of. In the future, it is
> > > going to be impossible to compete against Sun's J2EE RI. If you just look at
> > > the history of Swing/JFC and the impact it had on companies KLG, RoguWave etc.,
> > > you begin to understand that Sun's free and open source EJB container is going
> > > to win out.
> > >
> >
> > Yeah, of course. BTW, everybody starts using Tomcat as a web server. It's so much
> > better than those bloated web servers like Apache or Netscape Enterprise Server. I
> > was also using the JDBC drivers from oracle and weblogic, but now I've found this
> > free JDBC-ODBC bridge from Sun. What a beast!
>
> All you have to do is keep it simple.
>
> >
> > You seem to know the Java and EJB world very well! If the Jini product you want to
> > sell us is as scalable , powerful, speedy and opensource as the J2EERI, I'll
> > certainly buy it.
>
> Expect Siliware to go open source and free!!!
>
> Siliware is using Tomcat and the J2EE RI. We expect the J2EE RI platform to provide
>us
> with the J2EE Connection Architecture functionality we need for integrating Jini.
>
> I don't see how companies can continue to assume their clients are ignorant. With the
> internet, clients catch on pretty quick.
>
> So even if you can't sell the J2EE RI without first licensing it from Sun, it still
> has alot of value for prototyping and building products. As a vendor and system
> integrator, I have found that all of the other containers are pretty much worthless.
>
> The reality is that it's going to take a couple of years to role out real EJB
> applications and alot of things are going to change by then.
>
> Expect the market for EJB container providers to flood pretty quick.
>
> Many small companies are already reverse-engineering Sun's open source J2EE RI and
> will create better containers than most of the major players!
>
I also added in my previous mail : ROFL (which means "Rolling On the Floor Laughing").
Have you read my mail carefully? It was cynical. You can't be serious.
First of all, when you downloaded J2EERI, you accepted an agreement containing this
sentence :
"3.2 Except as otherwise provided by law, Licensee may not modify or create derivative
works of the Licensed Software, or reverse engineer, disassemble or decompile binary
portions of the Licensed Software, or otherwise attempt to derive the source code from
such portions."
So, if you really start to reverse-engineer J2EE-RI and keep shouting it everywhere, be
prepared to be sued by Sun before having even sold one copy of your software.
Second, if you really didn't find any interesting additional feature in other EJB
container, then you must not have read their doc and tested them very much. Have you
ever
wondered why Sun and Netscape are selling (at a huge price) iPlanet 6.0, which is a
J2EE
platform. J2EE-RI is a toy. It can't be used seriously for any large-scale (we call it
"enterprise", as in J2EE) application. And if you compare the level of stability,
scalability and performance of your product to the one of Tomcat or J2EE-RI, prepare
yourself not to sell one copy of your software. (To enlighten you : Tomcat is also a
reference implementation of the servlet 2.2 and JSP 1.1 specs, and the JDBC-ODBC
bridge is
a piece of crap explicitely described by Sun as a development and test only software,
which should never be used in a real production environment).
Regarding the Connector architecture, it's still a draft spec!
>
> Thanks
>
You're welcome.
JB.
>
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