>
> The reality is that it's going to take a couple of years to role
> out real EJB
> applications and alot of things are going to change by then.
>
I hate to get involved in such a subjective discussion, but I would like to
point out that "real EJB" applications are here now and I can give you
plenty of examples of them with real users hammering away at them. And they
are all at Enterprise quality too.
> So even if you can't sell the J2EE RI without first licensing it
>from Sun, it still has alot of value for prototyping and
>building products. As a vendor and system integrator, I have
>found that all of the other containers are pretty much worthless.
I also agree with Jean-Baptise's claim that J2EE RI, is what it is meant to
be, an RI. Not a production quality implementation. Where is your
clustering, failover scenario ? How about a decent O/R mapping tool ? How
about IDE support ? How about a test environment for unit testing ?
All of the above and more, I get from my application server.
Yes, you can use it for prototyping and even for some development....
SUN don't want you to resell the RI, and will never do. That would mean it
will compete against iPlanet. They are not stupid.
Even the most ardent supporter of Tomcat (of which I am one) will agree that
it is not yet ready for production. (refer to the mailing list.) It is just
an RI and the only reason, SUN has agreed to giving it to the Apache
foundation is that they know it will not compete against them with selling
their Enterprise app server. That is where the big bickies are .
-- Aravind
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