Really Ken, at 2 am there are just helpdesk guys; they are skilled at
informing you that there's no ANY key, but you should press any key, say,
'A'.

I have a clustered solution running on top of Orion, 3 app-servers in
practically desktop machines, and it gets 4 million hits a day.

And even the most expensive solutions do not provide the same capabilities
than Orion(for instance, http session replication thru a cluster).

My 2c,

Juan Pablo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth D. Litwak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Jueves, 23 de Agosto de 2001 13:17
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Decline of the EJB civilization?
>
>
> >To cover their incompetency.  If the project does not work,
> blame the server
> >not the people.
> >
> >
> >
> >What I'd like to know is why are companies using $50,000
> application servers
> >when other servers exist that are low cost or no cost, that
> essentially do
> >the same job.
> >I've used Orion and JBoss and they seem to run as reliabily as other
> >expensive servers, although they can be more difficult to
> run initially.
> >Obviously things like clustering abilities are not there
> (yet) but 90% of
> >applications don't need them anyway.
> >So tell me, industry people, why do you use your expensive
> app servers???
> >I await your responses!!!
> >Thanks,
> >Oisin
>
> Well, I'm no marketer, I don't even use an app server though
> my employer makes
> one but if you think that servers that cost money are of no
> use, then you've
> never had to reach tech support at 2 AM.  Who's home at
> "Orion" if you have a
> server problem on Saturday afternoon on Labor Day weekend?
> I'd never, if it
> were up to me, use an open-source, freeware app server if
> reliability and
> vailability mattered to me.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> >On Thursday 23 August 2001 15:12, Jay Walters wrote:
> >> I don't know as I'd go so far as to talk of decline of the EJB
> >> civilization, but what they say in the article seems like
> the truth.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
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