David,

If I try to click on anything in the Utility pane, it immediately disappears.

The lower box shows:

Elecraft K3 Utility OS X Rev 1.19.9.6
OS X Version 10.15.4
K3 MCU Revision 05.60. RS - 232 Speed 38400 bps

John
WA1EAZ

> On May 12, 2020, at 1:47 PM, David Herring <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Right click on said icon in the icon bar and choose “Show all windows”  — the 
> Utility’s main pane should appear alone in the middle of your screen and you 
> should then be able to click on it and use it.
> 
> 
>> On May 12, 2020, at 11:41 AM, John Stengrevics <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> David,
>> 
>> Yes, the K3 icon appears on the icon bar with a dot beneath it.  Clicking it 
>> makes K3 Utility appear at the top of the screen.  Unfortunately, there’s 
>> nothing useful there.
>> 
>> John
>> WA!EAZ
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2020, at 1:37 PM, David Herring <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It feels like the utility pane is just simply “hidden” (one can do that 
>>> with command-h, why one would want to I don’t know ;-). ) Anyway, when the 
>>> Utility is running, is there an icon with a dot under it in the icon bar 
>>> (presumably) at the bottom of your screen? If there is, click on it and see 
>>> if that would bring the Utility pane up.
>>> 
>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 11:25 AM, John Stengrevics <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> David,
>>>> 
>>>> The “About” pane does show up.  It offers the user to read the agreement, 
>>>> but NOT to agree.
>>>> 
>>>> The Utility pane does NOT show up.
>>>> 
>>>> Tried it from Applications but, same result.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> WA1EAZ
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 1:21 PM, David Herring <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK, from these answers we can deduce that the app is actually running. 
>>>>> The question is where the pane is...
>>>>> 
>>>>> John, I’ve had this happen to me before on other things…so launch the 
>>>>> utility, go up to the top and under Elecraft K3 Utility, and choose 
>>>>> “About K3 Utility”
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does the “About" pane show up anywhere? And does it bring with it the 
>>>>> actual utility pane with it, by chance? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Like I say, this has happened before where opening something else in an 
>>>>> app makes the app show up. <shrug> Worth a shot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regarding location of the app, yes it absolutely should be in 
>>>>> Applications, but I just launched mine from Downloads and it still works. 
>>>>> But moving it to Applications would be well advised.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> 
>>>>> David - N5DCH
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Grant Youngman <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don’t know guys.  It starts up fine here. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Macbook Pro 2018, i7, latest Catalina.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Grant NQ5T
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 12:58 PM, John Stengrevics 
>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks to all for taking the time to help.  Here are answers to your 
>>>>>>> questions:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jack W6FB 
>>>>>>> Version 1.19.9.6
>>>>>>> Several times it showed ”initiatializing” then nothing
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> David  N5DCH
>>>>>>> Yes, warned about running something downloaded from the web.   I click 
>>>>>>> Open, the app appears on the dock
>>>>>>> Right click on the app:  Elecraft K3 Utility V1 19.9.6 -S/N 10755 on 
>>>>>>> usb serial - A503xyao at 38400 bps
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> David  W4SMT
>>>>>>> The K3 Utility menu appears but there is very little under it:  About 
>>>>>>> K3 Utility, Services, Hide, Quit
>>>>>>> I’ve rebooted countless times
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>> WA1EAZ
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 12:31 PM, David Fleming <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Does the K3 Utility menu appear at the top of the screen when you 
>>>>>>>> double click the app? Are you sure you’re clicking on the actual app 
>>>>>>>> and not the .ZIP file?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Have you tried a reboot? The most current version (1.19.9.6) should 
>>>>>>>> run fine on Catalina. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> David, W4SMT
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 12:23 PM, John Stengrevics 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That box asking to accept terms doesn’t come up for me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I’ve emailed tech support again (twice yesterday) - not holding my 
>>>>>>>> breath.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>> WA1EAZ
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 12:06 PM, David Herring <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I just downloaded the K3 Utility version 1.19.9.6 from the Elecraft 
>>>>>>>>> website. I installed it on my macOS Catalina machine, double clicked 
>>>>>>>>> it and it ran just fine. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Initially I thought I had recreated your problem, in that when I 
>>>>>>>>> double-clicked seemingly nothing happened,  but I discovered that 
>>>>>>>>> there is a “click to accept license terms and conditions” pane that 
>>>>>>>>> appears under everything else on the desktop. Once I found that and 
>>>>>>>>> accepted their terms, the app popped right up. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If you just installed this app, maybe dig around under things to see 
>>>>>>>>> if it’s waiting for input from you somewhere. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, a quick note to Elecraft support may be in order.  Also I 
>>>>>>>>> think the author of the app may monitor this reflector and might 
>>>>>>>>> respond at some point if we don’t get it going for you before long.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>>> David - N5DCH
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 9:29 AM, John Stengrevics 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Bill.  That’s really odd.  It won’t run on my MacBook Pro 
>>>>>>>>>> with Catalina same as yours.  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I assume you just double click it?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>> WA1EAZ
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 11:12 AM, William Hammond <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi John, I have an oldish iMac but the latest OS software; 10.15.4, 
>>>>>>>>>>> 21.5 Late 2013, 2.9 MHZ I5, it runs the utility just fine.  I 
>>>>>>>>>>> tested it just before this email , where I discovered there is a 
>>>>>>>>>>> new load that requires a gain adjustment on the K3s for six meters. 
>>>>>>>>>>>  I downloaded it and installed it and made the gain adjustment.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The utility is 1.19.9.6, Sept 12, 2019, not the same version as the 
>>>>>>>>>>> Windows utility.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Just to let you know it will work great..
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 73, Bill-AK5X
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 8:33 AM, John Stengrevics 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Further to my earlier email:  The Utility does not run.  Perhaps 
>>>>>>>>>>>> incompatible with the latest MacOS Catalina?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>> WA1EAZ
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: John Stengrevics <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: K3S Firmware Update for Mac
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: May 12, 2020 at 8:55:33 AM EDT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Elecraft Mailer <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have downloaded the latest K3S Utility.  However, I don’t see 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> an option for updating firmware on the Utility.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m probably overlooking something simple.  Appreciate any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WA1EAZ
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