You are exactly right Len. A majority of the worlds biggest super computers are 
run on open source software (Not Windows :)). The June 2020 list here 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOP500. Android devices, imbedded devices, most 
web browsers etc. The list goes on and on.

it’s about quality developers and a quality development process. Elecraft 
surely has the market cornered in both aspects for both hardware and software.

73,
Bill WE5P

Comfortably Numb

> On Nov 27, 2020, at 14:29, l...@ka7ftp.com wrote:
> " OpenSSL pretty much runs the entire secure Internet. Linux, Python, etc.
> 
> But those are exceptions."
> 
> And an interesting statistic...
> 
> "It's often said that more than half of new businesses fail during the first 
> year. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), this isn't 
> necessarily true. Data from the BLS shows that approximately 20% of new 
> businesses fail during the first two years of being open, 45% during the 
> first five years, and 65% during the first 10 years. Only 25% of new 
> businesses make it to 15 years or more. These statistics haven't changed much 
> over time, and have been fairly consistent since the 1990s.1 Though the odds 
> are better than the commonly held belief, there are still many businesses 
> that are closing down every year in the United States."
> 
> It seems that this thread has become the whipping boy for open source.  I 
> would suggest that it is irrelevant whether something is open or closed 
> source.  Much of the "stuff" we buy today is created and sold in a one off 
> runs  from China.  Once produced it is sold at Walmart and few people care 
> how long it works, as long as it's cheap.  For the few who care most stores 
> will do a "no questions asked" refund.  And then the consumer is off to buy 
> another piece of junk.
> 
> Open source projects are often created by a single individual , or a few 
> people, who care about creating a "thing".  There is often no thought about 
> money, profit, or even maintaining the project.  There are a few that gain 
> traction and in some cases change the world.  I'm sure it's more than the few 
> projects that we have all listed in this thread that thrive. It's no 
> different than the stats above on business.  Unless you can create something 
> that is useful and compel people to buy and use, the product will eventually 
> cease to evolve and the company will probably die.  Many open source projects 
> reach maturity when the goals of the project are meet.  Those project are 
> often abandoned...  Not really that different from a business that no longer 
> innovates.
> 
> This seems like a silly debate to continue demonizing one method or another.  
>  Both methods are valid and are based of different motivations. And in 
> reality they are indifferent to our opinions...  
> 
> I think the question originally raised was as to the possibility of open 
> sourcing the older Elecraft code.  My guess is that may not happen for a lot 
> of reasons.    As long as Elecraft is doing well in business why would they 
> freely part with their intellectual property, I wouldn't.  
> 
> len
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