I think we should charge Paul with throwing mud.

Juho has created a couple examples packaged as basic tie elections, with one extra vote added in that gives the odd voter full control as to winner under wv rules.

Paul notes - as a big deal - that by not starting with a tie, the results would be different.

Does not matter that such a count in a real election would smell rotten.

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:54:03 +0300 Juho Laatu wrote:

Hello Paul,

On Jul 25, 2005, at 01:42, Paul Kislanko wrote:

 Juho Laatu wrote in part:

(P.S. Number of "1000 supporter parties" could be also higher
than two,
and number of candidates in each party could be higher than two, and
the results/problems would stay the same.)


I'd be very careful with generalizations like this one. The
three-alternative case is qualitatively different from the two-alternative
case. The example itself depends upon their being an even number of voters
so the split can result in a tie. With the same 2000 voters and a third
candidate, you can't have a tie since 2000 is not 0 mod 3.


Ok, I'll try to be more careful with my definitions. I'll give an example to clarify what I was thinking. I the attached example one vote seems to be able to pick any winner - in this case the last vote picks B.

1000:  A>B>C>D
1000:  E>F>G
1000:  H>I
1000:  J
1:     B>F

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