On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:51:12 -0500 Paul Kislanko wrote:

 Dave Ketchum wrote


I think we should charge Paul with throwing mud.

Juho has created a couple examples packaged as basic tie elections, with one extra vote added in that gives the odd voter full control as to winner under wv rules.

Paul notes - as a big deal - that by not starting with a tie, the results would be different.


Paul noted nothing of the sort. So Dave Ketchum is "throwing mud".

Paul noted that there is a qualitative difference between 3-alternative and
2-alternative elections. If Dave wants to dispute that, he is free to
disprove Arrow's Theorem and after he gets a Nobel Prize for that he can
accuse Paul of throwing mud.

What is the difference?


Juho was setting up ties.  He did it with two alternatives:
     1000 A>B
     1000 C>D

How would adding in the following make a difference?
     1000 E>F

Remember that the topic is ties, rather than splitting up a district with a fixed quantity of real voters. The district could have had 3000 real voters in 2 groups of 1500 or 3 groups of 1000 - or whatever made the desired example.
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