On 5/27/04 9:17 AM chris at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote.

Hi Chris and Bill-
I'm somewhat confused as a non-tech person on this subject (as well as 
many others) and wanted to ask a question or two.

What is it that you can do free Chris?  With all the emails you receive 
and send I would think that whatever you do about SPAM it has a cost to 
it in time and since you are in business then time is money.

Also my feeling about this aberrant behavior of spammers is similar to 
what I believe about criminal behavior in that the cause of this is the 
lack of proper education.  Therefore we need a new approach to education, 
one that is focused on re-education, prevention and rehabilitation and 
which deals with the whole person, i.e. body, mind and spirit without 
being religious.  I have such a program, body of knowledge, a holistic 
education philosophy and core curriculum but the problem is the existing 
systems and powers that be are so egocentric and limited in thought they 
block anything they do not understand or that in any way does not 
resemble their current academics and specialized terminologies.    But 
there are inroads being made and sooner or later this type of education 
or process will be in our system.  All we can hope for is that it happens 
quick enough to lessen the effects of a systemic breakdown in society.  I 
know this sounds like some new doomsday view but history will validate 
that there are cycles in which a new system or integrating power is at 
work and which causes a disintegration or decline in the old systems.  
For example we have moved from the kings and rulers, industrial era etc. 
into a social democractic type era of a service type economy and such and 
we are moving from nationalism into internationalism and globalization 
and thus existing systems are not able to function as they did before all 
these changes of rapid communication and travel with a high tech 
condition. 

The problem, as I see it, is that far too many people in our grossly 
materialistic nation feel that technology is the answer to all our 
problems and it is not.  Nor is money the answer.  

OK, that is my soapbox speech for today.  

Seriously though I do feel that this spammer situation will not be solved 
by technology, no matter how powerful Bill Gates feels he is.

regards,
doug 

>>How about Bill Gates' proposal for a minor fee to send email. The way I 
>>recall it, the idea is that it would be so small as to not constitute a 
>>burden for people like us, but would be an enormous cost for spammers 
>>sending millions of posts.
>
>It won't work.
>
>Why should I pay for something I can do free right now. Also, it may not 
>be a huge cost to people, but what about businesses? My company must push 
>a few thousand emails a day. That adds up. And my company is light on 
>email compared to larger companies. What would a company like AT&T say? 
>I'm sure company wide they probably send millions of emails a day. How 
>about list server hosts? You think this list would exist if there was ANY 
>cost to running it?
>
>Never trust ANY plan that involves charging money for a free service. The 
>only reason for such a plan is to make the plan inventors rich.
>
>-chris
><http://www.mythtech.net>

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