Doug McAdam wrote:

>Sorry, but I seem to be confused about all this.  It is true that my ISP 
>offers SPAM blocking and I have availed myself of this feature.  I have 
>activated AppleScripts in the Mail Action feature regarding certain key 
>words, addresses, subjects etc. and the ISP is now marking them with the 
>prefix "SPAM" and they are filed into a SPAM folder on my Emailer. 

If I am understanding you, you seem confused about the difference between 
spam blocking done by your ISP and spam handling done on your own 
computer. Your ISP's spam blocking has not a thing to do with any 
Applescripts or Mail Actions that you may have on your machine. If you 
tell your ISP to block spam, then it never gets to you in the first 
place, no matter what OS or even what platform you use. A Windoz user 
would use his browser to go to the same ISP web site where I went to 
activate spam blocking, and the ISP doesn't ask and doesn't care what I'm 
using at my end. 

I had a bunch of mail actions to divert spam to my spam folder, but had 
the same problems you describe. You can never keep up with all the 
variations of spelling, senders, etc.

Then my ISP offered spam blocking with two choices. I could either have 
them mark suspected spam by placing the word "spam" in the subject, or I 
could have them just delete spam before sending it to me. I started by 
having them put spam in the subject. At that point, all I needed was a 
mail action to divert any post with spam in the subject to whatever 
folder I selected. The ISP's screen replaced all the screens of my mail 
actions. I chose to have it put in my deleted mail folder. After I 
reviewed it to make sure it was truly spam, I deleted it again, and it 
was gone from the folder.

After a couple of weeks looking at the results of spam blocking, I found 
that the ISP had never mis-identified a single good post as spam. At that 
point I went back on the ISP's customer service website and selected the 
choice that told them to hold the spam without my ever seeing it. I may 
be naive, and I may eventually miss a valuable post, but that's where I 
am at present.

After telling the ISP to delete spam without sending it to me, I disabled 
that mail action that had been sending any post with spam in the title to 
my deleted mail folder. After all, it would have been diverting the post 
to which I am relying. I now require no mail actions at all. A miniscule 
amount of spam gets by the ISP's spam blocker, but it is easy enough to 
just delete it as I get it.

One final point- it is my understanding that programs like Spam Sieve 
that you are inquiring about are things that would try to handle spam 
after the ISP sent it to you. But if the ISP doesn't sent it in the first 
place, then I don't see why you need the program. And of course I believe 
Spam Sieve works on OS X only, and you have indicated that like me, you 
are still using OS 9.

I hope this helps, and even more I hope I am not giving you bum scoop. 
With all the true experts present on this list, I feel a bit out of my 
league even trying to give you advice. But I'm just trying to explain it 
from the POV of a computer cripple who has been very happy that his ISP 
took the spam monkey off his back. 

If I am putting out bum scoop, I hope someone will correct me before I do 
more harm.

Bill

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