Matt, Am 07.06.2013 um 19:04 schrieb Matt Shaver <m...@mattshaver.com>:
> On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 13:08:00 +0200 > Michael Haberler <mai...@mah.priv.at> wrote: > >> If somebody wants to build on this, I would be happy to cooperate - I >> do lack the Javascript skills to build something meaningful beyond >> the 'hello world' level, and it isnt my main focus either. > > Peter Jensen will be coming to Wichita, so you should talk to him. He > might be the yin to your yang on this. I'd be really be looking forward finding a matching brother in crime on this I've been prowling and handwaving on this theme publically and privately for quite a while > >> I also advise against a Java application in the LinuxCNC context >> which IMO has no realistic chance of adoption and survival in this >> community. > > While I don't agree with everything you say, I think you're right about > this. I think the same is true for QT. Both technologies: > > A. Are physically large, as in "takes a lot of disk space". > > and > > B. Have a history of conflict between their license terms and the > largely GPL sympathetic linux community. The fallout from some of this > means there are people out there who will never use this stuff no > matter what, on principle. I didnt think of this, but you're surely right I was coming from a bit of different angle: the proliferation of platforms, and the power of current Web tools suggest such a split, and I agree that the times of 'fat binary UI's' are counted just look at this: http://badassjs.com/post/43158184752/qt-gui-toolkit-ported-to-javascript-via-emscripten ;=) As for Java: while Oracle does a superb job on sinking the vessel and even the financial community is boarding the dinghis - women and children first, I really dont care about a language and its upsides or downsides, thats just flamewar fodder what I think is relevant is - will it find adoption (i.e. are folks out which either speak the language, or are willing to learn it; imagining a show of hand I think we'll see very few) the other aspect is splintering efforts - note we cant even meaningfully support the ton of Tcl code in LinuxCNC, and I dont see an angle on carrying that forward if we have to do substantial API changes (we will) see the ranking here: http://lang-index.sourceforge.net/ barring a Tcl-cognescent angel squad magically appearing: I think we're riding a dead horse here (wisdom of the Dakota applies) and I see another one in the making; it just doesnt smell as bad yet - Michael > > Thanks, > Matt > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j _______________________________________________ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
