> On 2 May 2020, at 5:32 pm, Reinhard <reinha...@schwarzrot-design.de> wrote:
> 
> On Samstag, 2. Mai 2020, 08:22:05 CEST Jared McLaughlin wrote:
>> In my opinion, linuxcnc should be more like a distro that
>> you install packages on. The UI's should be packages that are not
>> maintained by the main development team.
> 
> That makes sense

I really don't see a problem with having the UI's as part of LinuxCNC

>> I also agree with the idea that a cleaned up "new version" should be
>> considered for the next major release.
> 
> Would be nice!
> 
>> I have used PathPilot and it seems a lot better than the other
>> LinuxCNC UI's I poked at before. That said, I feel like even PathPilot
>> has a long way to go ...
> 
> Well, I'm the creator of JCNCScreen.
> 
> The reason, why I started with such a big time-consuming work was, that none 
> of the existing UIs was really usable for me (including PathPilot and others).
> 
> I'm bit outdated, so I can't read axis and the like, that don't respect 
> proposals of window manager (i.e. like fontsize). Even on my desktop pc I 
> need 
> glasses and put my nose onto the screen to be able to read axis …

It is relatively easy to change the font size in Axis.

> For me, it is important, that I'm able to recognize the most important states 
> of the machine at a glance. Even from a distance of about 4-5 meters. 
> None of the UI offers this. Most if not all are too noisy - and you need 
> several seconds to find out, what is relevant and what is just high-polishing 
> for non-machinists - and even then: not every important state is visible.
> Of cause, that does not mean, that I want to read gcode from that distance, 
> but important machine states should be recognizable.

Kind of a catch 22, the more states displayed the noisier it becomes.

> Another problem is, that neither pyqt, nor gscreen runs on my desktop box. I 
> don't know enuf of python to solve that problems on my own and it does not 
> help, if others state, that they don't have problems.
> So I started with java, where I know to solve my own problems.
> Startup may be too slow, but response time of the running app is fast enuf 
> for 
> anything.

I imagine I would have the same issues with a Java UI if it didn't run.

> 
> I don't really need my own UI - if another UI would offer, what I'm looking 
> for, it would be just fine.

I don't think there will ever be a GUI that suits more than a few.

Cheers, Phill

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