Hi Amund,

 

Are the distances from GND1-Signal the same as Signal-GND2 i.e. is the
Signal layer equidistant between the two GND layers? 

 

If so, broadly speaking, half of the field is going to be between GND1 and
signal and the other half will be between GND2 and signal. If the signal
layer is biased towards one or the other GND layer then you'll have
proportionally more field on one side than the other.

 

This isn't ideal but every layout is a compromise. Provided you can via
through from GND2 to GND1 at either side of the split this should keep the
return path controlled. It will still result in an impedance discontinuity
which could cause signal integrity issues. There's also the strong
possibility of crosstalk from the high speed lines onto the GND2 trace they
are crossing. Questions you need to ask yourself include what is this trace
and where does it go? Is it filtered at any point?

 

If GND2 is an internal layer then additional emissions should be minimal
provided GND1 remains solid.

 

HTH

James

 

 

 

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From: Amund Westin <am...@westin-emission.no> 
Sent: 18 March 2020 08:38
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Stripline - discontinuity in adjacent ground planes

 

Let's say, part of a pcb stack looks like this  --- GND1 - SIGNAL - GND2

 

GND1 is solid copper fill

SIGNAL layer consists of high frequency lines LVDS, USB3.0, etc.

GND2 should be solid copper fill, but some traces are in that layer due to
space utilization reason. These traces are crossing 90 degrees the traces in
SIGNAL layer.

 

These traces in the GND2 will create gaps and therefore problems for the
return current for the high frequency lines I SINAL layer. 

 

But does it matter, as long as the GND1 layer is 100% filled, and there is
no disruption of the return current path for the traces in the adjacent
SIGNAL layer? 

 

 

Best regards

Amund Westin

 

 

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