On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Kirk Wallace <kwall...@wallacecompany.com>wrote:

> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 16:07 -0600, Igor Chudov wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Kirk Wallace <
> kwall...@wallacecompany.com>wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 15:35 -0600, Igor Chudov wrote:
> > > ... snip
> > > > You can only have equal voltages l1-l3, l2-l3, l1-l2, at 120 degree
> phase
> > > > angles.
> > >
> > > With 0, 90, 180, if the L3 peak to peak is higher than L1-L2, then the
> > > L1-L3 and L2-L3 could be made to equal L1-L2. I seem to recall that the
> > > converter capacitor size adjusts this, but the phase angle spacing will
> > > still be the same.
> > > --
> >
> >
> > Capacitors do adjust phase angle.
> >
> > i
>
> But there is no getting around the fact L1 and L2 are 180 degrees apart.
>

Kirk, it is not true.

You cannot even say, taking two points, that they are so many degrees apart.
you need a third point for this statement to even make sense.

if line neutral is that third point, then yes, L1 and L2 are 180 degrees
apart. But a three phase motor does not even see the line neutral, so it is
not relevant.

Think about it.

i



> The phase and voltage of the converter's L3 is unanswered. One of my
> problems is that I have never tried to verify any of this with an
> oscilloscope. I only have two channels and they are referenced to
> ground. Making a test seems like it would take some effort and
> converters generally work fine in practice, so the motivation isn't high
> enough yet. Thinking more, its just a matter of hooking up the probes to
> L1 and L3 and seeing what the phase shift is. If I leave the probes
> unconnected, there is no danger to the scope. Besides the converter
> should have the same ground. Maybe.
> --
> Kirk Wallace
> http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/
> http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/index.html
> California, USA
>
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