On Sat, 24 Dec 2011, gene heskett wrote:

> On Saturday, December 24, 2011 02:26:16 PM [email protected] did opine:
>
>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2011, gene heskett wrote:
>>> On Saturday, December 24, 2011 01:48:17 PM [email protected] did
> opine:
>>>> Probotix equipment
>>>> 40VDC 10Amp Linear Power Supply
>>>> PBX-RF RF Isolated CNC Breakout Board
>>>> 3 -   Uni-polar Stepper Motor Chopper Drivers
>>>
>>> Specs on this driver board please?
>>
>> http://www.probotix.com/manuals/ProboStepVX.pdf
>>
>>>> 3 -   280 OzIn 8-Wire Stepper Motor
>>>>
>>>> I have run this setup for over a year with no problems, so I thought
>>>> I would create one I have a used Pacific Scientific Powermax II
>>>> stepper model P21NRXA-LNF-NS-00 I could not send the datasheet for
>>>> the motor so I sent the link to it
>>>> http://www.electromate.com/db_support/downloads/Nema23PowermaxII.pdf
>>>
>>> This data sheet shows 2 things, one that it does run hot, very hot.
>>> 130C in a 40C environment.  To me that is too hot, but they know
>>> their varnish better than I do.  Any other comments I'll wait for the
>>> driver specs to make.
>>>
>>>> I
>>>> added a 4th Uni-polar Stepper Motor Chopper Drivers
>>>> Wired motor and driver and they actually work
>>>>
>>>> Issue 1
>>>> The motor gets VERY hot
>>>> I have run the other motors for a couple of hours and they got hot
>>>> but the SI motor will burn your fingers after about 15 minutes The
>>>> manual for the Uni-polar Stepper Motor Chopper Drivers says to set
>>>> the current limiter to .145 * target_current, 2.8 amps = .406 I
>>>> reduced it to .38 and it still gets too hot
>>>>
>>>> Issue 2
>>>> The motor is slow
>>>> The label says max 1500 rpm but I can only get a fraction of that
>>>> I use EMC 2.4.6
>>>> The driver is set to 1/8 stepping
>>>>
>>>> [AXIS_3]
>>>> TYPE = ANGULAR
>>>> HOME = 0.0
>>>> MAX_VELOCITY = 360
>>>> MAX_ACCELERATION = 5000.0
>>>> STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 6250.0
>>>> SCALE = 4.44444444444
>>>> FERROR = 1
>>>> MIN_FERROR = .25
>>>> MIN_LIMIT = -9999.0
>>>> MAX_LIMIT = 9999.0
>>>> HOME_OFFSET = 0.0
>
> Off topic, from this I assume its running a rotary table?

Probably but now it is just a motor sitting on the bench


>
> If that table has the usual 72 or 90 gear down, those settings are a bit
> off.

If I do gear this thing down I will fall asleep waiting for it to turn


>
>> From one of my ini files that included a 425oz  motor on a 4" Grizzly
> table, direct drive to the worm:
> [AXIS_3]
> TYPE = ANGULAR
> HOME = 0.0
> MAX_VELOCITY = 81.8965517241
> MAX_ACCELERATION = 1200.0
> STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 1500.0
> SCALE = 200.0
> FERROR = 1
> MIN_FERROR = .25
> MIN_LIMIT = -9999.0
> MAX_LIMIT = 9999.0
> HOME_OFFSET = 0.0
>

Your setting do get me more rpms but g0 a180 results in many revolutions
In the not too distant future I hope to be driving a rotary table with this
So how do I adjust these setting for whatever my final reduction will be

> Now, some of those I will admit are swags, set higher than needed just to
> get the errors out of the way, but it works for the most part. The
> absolutes are max-vel, max-accel and stepgen-maxaccel else I got stalls. 28
> volt supply to an xylotex driver board at the time.  You have 40, so those
> could be scaled up perhaps 25%.
>
> IIRC the scale is wrong, it needs upping by the gear ratio IIRC but I need
> to start emc with that and recheck that.  OTOH, I recall that I saw in
> axis, the same # of degrees the table moved.  I know it needs a backlash
> setting plugged in, but I was so anxious to try it, the g-code I wrote was
> always coming to rest in the same direction. But that didn't help it when
> the cutting torque moved the table to take up the backlash either, and of
> course a backlash setting wouldn't help unless I incorporated a .001 degree
> step move in the other direction as the bit was starting down the other
> side of a sprockets tooth profile.
>
> But that is another story, the sprockets worked, with many thanks to Andy
> P. for some very elegant code.
>
> Cheers, Gene
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