Eric,

Am 29.05.2013 um 00:37 schrieb Eric Keller <[email protected]>:

> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> I'd be happy to help with this.  Any thoughts on what/when you want
>> merge with the mainline of LinuxCNC?
> 
> I would also like to help.  I need to test the old toolkit to see what
> is happening with that.

as for ARM boards, I think the most valuable contribution right now would be to 
document and provide working kernels, which is the #1 bottleneck; I am not sure 
the implications of that prerequisite have fully sunk in with the determined 
hardware shopaholics

the build and test process for a working Xenomai kernel is a bit involved and 
it's easy to overlook some step; the Xenomai folks do the best they can but 
some of the stuff going on over there is 'beyond my pay grade', as cradek would 
say

also, due to the device tree work the times of packaged, runtime configurable 
kernels for embedded platforms are not that far off, some initial results 
becoming visible; I am not sure this will apply to Xenomai but it could very 
well to RT-PREEMPT and that would be a big step forward towards the ease of 
installing a new kernel say on x86 off some major distro

the linuxCNC build per se really is nothing new or particularly challenging for 
anybody who has ever replicated the steps 'Installing from git source' from the 
wiki, and I'd be pressed to note more than the extra configure options 

also, drivers for a wider variety of peripherals would be nice to have; not 
everything around LinuxCNC just has to be hard realtime and some I/O functions 
could well be provided through userland HAL components using stock kernel 
facilities like existing PWM device drivers and the like, for instance print 
nozzle temperature control

the third 'nice to have' item would be instructions to transition from some 
stock SD card/distro to a fully working system; usually there are few config 
files, permissions etc which need tweaking and it'd be nice to reduce the 
suffering by re-discovery here

btw GP Orcullo's build documentation on the Raspberry image build is very nice 
and complete, so keep those clones coming ;)

note that we're not restricted to x86 and ARM; Xenomai builds on Blackfins and 
ppc as well and then some, and RT-PREEMPT on likely an even wider range.

I think once we have the unified binary it will make sense to explore packing 
by architecture, say arm7l for a start; I think that'd be entirely possible 
eventually. Right now there isnt much point to that yet.

--

semi-related, I hear noises that the Beaglebone will sport an RT-PREEMPT kernel 
soon too, since it seems some major customer put in a formal request for that. 
Not necessarily better results to be expected, but at least a second option.

The #beagle IRC channel is going through a sudden bump of interest, it seems 
the Beaglebone has appeal to a wide range of users, and the folk hanging out on 
that channel are a bit pressed to keep up with the sudden influx of noobs


- Michael

> 
> I keep hoping to hear of some break out board replacement for the BBB
> because it would probably be useful to have a target to aim for.
> Eric
> 
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