On 2/17/2014 3:47 PM, Steve Blackmore wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 16:51:06 -0600, you wrote:

>> Sorry, but I don't consider changing the machine to fit the tool to be
>> an acceptable solution.
>
> Then your stuck with a known problematic design. I wish I had a pound
> for each complaint/query/moan I've seen and heard about twin steppers on
> a gantry machine.
>
> Other fixes include servos or closed loop steppers but keeping both
> sides in synch with software without any feedback is nigh on impossible.

It's such a simple design concept to run a shaft across the gantry to 
connect to a chain or belt or rack on both sides, or to use a screw down 
each side and connect them at one or both ends with a chain or belt. 
Never racks, ever, and doesn't use up two motor control outputs from the 
control electronics.

A friend of mine has a big Torchmate table, uses a rod across the gantry 
with a rack on each side, rod is turned by a cogged belt. Don't ask me 
why they used an ACME threaded rod when nothing runs on the threads! 
Plain shaft would work just as well.

A while back on this list, someone was attempting to replace the control 
on a Thermwood gantry router with a PC and LCNC. Thermwood used a motor 
on each end of the gantry, and to make it especially challenging the 
gantry stretched across the long dimension of the table. Never had any 
racking problems with the OEM control but the person doing the refit 
couldn't get it to work with LCNC.

I would have just got out the tools etc and fixed the @#%$@% thing to 
use a cross shaft rather than screw around trying to use software to fix 
a hardware design problem.

What might provide some insight into an anti-racking system is to study 
how pivot sprinkler lines are made to handle fields which are not 
perfectly flat. They have sensors at each wheel pylon that detect if 
that point is advancing or lagging then the speed is adjusted to get it 
back in line so the pipe doesn't end up kinking and wound up around the 
pivot like a dog that's too dumb to change directions when it gets its 
chain wound up.

Design the gantry with the end bases long and stable then have the cross 
bar mounted so it can pivot just a little. Add sensors to detect the 
tiniest amount of racking then have a system to automatically adjust the 
speed of each side to straighten it out. That could be completely 
independent of the CNC control. But still far more complex than 
mechanically coupling the ends of the gantry.

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