Yes. Sorry that was a typo, autocorrected. But actually the subscription model of paying for software is the same. Microsoft is doing this with Office 360 too. All of these companies are looking to do the same things, even out there cash flow with reliable monthly payments form customers and to offer cloud data storage so your data is not tied to one specific PC.
On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 8:45 PM, <tom-...@bgp.nu> wrote: > To clarify… This is not an Adobe app. The company is Autodesk, same > company that did Autocad and Inventor, etc etc…. > -Tom > > > On Jan 30, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Chris Albertson <albertson.ch...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > As I said, running this app as I type... Yes you can sign up for free > use > > under one of two cases > > 1) Student or Educator, gets three free years and can sign up again after > > that > > 2) Business that does under $100K per year gets one free year then can > sign > > up again. > > > > So I yes you only owe them money if you use this to run a business that > > makes over $100K. In which case $300 is not much. > > > > This is not really a "cloud app". It runs like the other Adobe apps. > > This means the app itself, the program is just a normal program that runs > > on your local computer. But the DATA or at lest copies of the data can > > exist on Adobe's cloud storage. This is very good because it means you > > can access it from any place in the world and so can your co-workers. > > > > This would be the app to use it say a group of people wanted to design a > > "open source" machine part. Like maybe a CNC conversion kit for a > popular > > mill, or an open source 3D printer. Anyone could "improve" the design > and > > if the improvement turns out to not be so good then the version control > > system could back out the change. You can't do this so easy if the data > > lives inside one PC in one person's office. I think you can keep local > > data too if you like. I's still playing with it. > > > > But do NOT think of this as a "cloud app". It is NOT browser based, not > > web based. It's runs local as any other apps does. > > > > There does appear to be a learning curve. This is an industrial strength > > product and I've had it for all of 20 minutes so far. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Chris Albertson < > albertson.ch...@gmail.com <mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > >> > >> It seems that Fusion 360 is in the Mac "App Store" for free. It may be > >> cloud based but it is also a "real" app that runs on a Mac. (They might > >> have a Windows version too but I have not looked.) > >> > >> OK I said "free". No, sorry, a correction, The app is free but it does > >> not work without a "membership". You can buy different levels of > >> "membership" starting at $39 per month or $300 per year. Only the > first 30 > >> days is free. I'm looking at the App as I type this. > >> > >> That said, it looks really good: > >> > >> - A big company that is NOT going away is behind this (Adobe) > >> - It does ,Surface, Mesh, Parametric and Solid modeling and will do > >> organic shape like a guitar neck or car body as well as simple things > >> - It holds the data and allows people to collaborate from different > >> locations on a design. It will handle version control and multiple > users > >> working on the same designs > >> - Users can extend it using Java > >> - Can output to a 3 axis mill, 3D Printer or even printed drawings > >> > >> > >> But $39 per month will add up over time..... This is the model Adobe > has > >> gone with for their other apps like Photoshop and the like, you buy a > >> subscription. It is a good deal if you make money with Adobe > software. > >> Looks like I can use this for 30 days. > >> > >> Here is a link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fusion-360 > >> <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fusion-360/id868968810?mt=12> > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 11:03 AM, <tom-...@bgp.nu> wrote: > >> > >>> I too am a Mac user. Up until recently I have been using Geomagic > Design > >>> (formerly Alibre Design) for CAD and mostly Sheetcam for CAM. Both of > >>> these apps are Windows based. I run Windows7 as an application on > MacOS - > >>> as god intended ;-) with Parallels. Geomagic and Sheetcam are pretty > much > >>> the only thing I run under Windows. > >>> > >>> A few months ago when I read that Fusion had released their turning CAM > >>> and made Fusion 360 free for enthusiasts and small businesses I gave it > >>> another try (had played with early beta but found it lacking). I have > now > >>> begun to use Fusion 360 almost exclusively. I have most recently been > >>> making parts for a cnc lathe so I haven’t played with the milling CAM > yet, > >>> but do intend to. After months of using it I believe I am not going to > >>> renew my maintenance of Geomagic Design. I have to say that I was > very > >>> reluctant to use a cloud-based application but I am quite pleased with > >>> Fusion 360 and have never had issues relating to it’s cloud-based model > >>> (you can do most things when offline as well). I am constantly amazed > at > >>> the features in the software as well as the integrated HSMWorks-based > CAM > >>> software that is available for free in this package. It is also > >>> constantly being improved and updated, they do a feature and bug > release at > >>> least once a month. sometime twice a month. > >>> > >>> I also infrequently use OnShape (also cloud based) and am very > impressed > >>> with their collaboration features and rapid updates as well. OnShape > is > >>> CAD only and doesn’t have free integrated CAM so I have been using it > less > >>> and less but occasionally use it with colleagues to work on some > things. > >>> You can purchase commercial CAM packages for it. > >>> > >>> I would highly recommend you check out Fusion 360. > >>> -Tom > >>> > >>>> On Jan 30, 2016, at 12:03 PM, Chris Albertson < > >>> albertson.ch...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> What are people here using to create G-code? I am looking for > options. > >>>> > >>>> I'm new to CNC and trying to develop a work flow. I'm making small > >>> parts > >>>> (most fit in a 3" cube) for robot manipulators. These can be > designed > >>>> for easy manual machining but now I want to add curves and arcs and > >>> later > >>>> add refinements that have more organic shapes. Qualities are as much > >>> as a > >>>> half dozen each. > >>>> > >>>> I use ViaCAD. It is very much identical to "TurboCAD" to make 3D > >>> drawings > >>>> and these can be saved in several different file formats. > >>>> > >>>> I found PyCAM. It will read STL files and make G-code. Are there > >>> other > >>>> options? Can you really build good G-code from STL? It seems STL > has > >>> no > >>>> notion of arcs and hols and pockets. It is all triangles. Does this > >>>> matter? > >>>> > >>>> I'm doing the design work on a Apple iMac and of course the machine > >>>> controller is Linux. Any workflow that uses either of those two OSes > is > >>>> fine, as I've had long experience with both. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> Chris Albertson > >>>> Redondo Beach, California > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance > >>> APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month > >>> Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now > >>> Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. 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