On Wed, 12 Oct 2016, Erik Friesen wrote:

> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:30:06 -0400
> From: Erik Friesen <e...@aercon.net>
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>     <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Haas thoughts
> 
> Does or doesn't LCNC support softdmc?
Not LinuxCNC does not support SOftDMC

>
> Correct me if I am wrong here, but my calcs are these.
>
> I can't find a pole count for the Yaskawa servo motors, but I assume they
> are 8 poles.  Encoder counts are 32768 per rev, 6mm ballscrews.
>
A 3000 RPM motor may be 4 poles (8 pole Fanuc are ofteb 1750 RPM max)

> So at 700IPM, that is 50 Rounds per second, encoders right at 1.6mhz
>
> 50 RPS * 8 Poles = 400 Motor cycles per second.
>
> 400 MCPS * 32?? = 12800hz needed servo period?  This seems a bit out of
> reach of being handled in software, and I am not sure that 32 steps would
> be enough.
>

32 steps are probably way more than needed at maximum speed for a couple 
of reasons, 1 being that the motor inductance and lack of voltage headroom at 
full speed will make the motors current response be in the millisecond 
region at that speed (dI/dT = Vbus-VMotor/LMotor) and 2 being that small 
angular errors cause very little torque ripple due to the torque vs 
angle error curve being close to a cosine (that is even square wave commutated 
motors with +-30 degrees of commutation error = 6 step commutation have only 
about 13% torque ripple)

My guess is that 4 to 8 KHz would be fine and if the FPGA hardware could 
interpolate the values, even 1 KHz would be fine


> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Erik Friesen <e...@aercon.net> wrote:
>
>> It uses an atmel chip.  However, that isn't the hangup to me.  I see
>> context switching as a real challenge.  So you hit the edit button, then
>> what?  Open gedit?  I'd really like to limit GUI excursions and control the
>> whole thing closer than that.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Gregg Eshelman <g_ala...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Look on the back of the keyboard for microchips, or on a board that the
>>> keyboard connects to. Google the numbers to see what they are.
>>>
>>> I'd thought about hoking up the keyboard from the Anilam Crusader 2
>>> system that was on my big mill. Shouldn't have been too difficult since a
>>> cable went from the keyboard to another small board with a matrix to RS232C
>>> chip. Would have mostly been figuring out the pinout of the header on the
>>> adapter board then setting up a text editor to take input from a COM port,
>>> then poking every button to see what characters it sent.
>>>
>>>
>>>       From: Erik Friesen <e...@aercon.net>
>>>  To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>>  Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 6:59 AM
>>>  Subject: [Emc-users] Haas thoughts
>>>
>>> Are any of these items valid any more?
>>>
>>> http://blog.cnccookbook.com/2014/12/16/10-features-pros-hobb
>>> y-cnc-controllers-dont/
>>>
>>> What would it take (software wise) to fully integrate a haas keypad so
>>> that
>>> most of the functions would be usable?  The ones I see as a challenge are
>>> items like Posit, Offset, and all the edit functions.
>>>
>>> Reference keypad http://aercon.net/Public/HaasKeyboard.jpg
>>>
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