I have been getting into fusion for a while now...  Slowly.  I was
corrupted with acad 12 and it is hard for me to go full parametric... ;)
 So it is really the only windows based application that I run anymore.  It
runs ok in a virtual machine - if the file isn't too big.  I finally drank
the coolaid of vfio and video passthrough to a vm..  Over the last few
months I have been looking for a laptop that I can pass the dedicated video
to a windows 10 vm.  Finally found a MSI gs60 that worked.  Pretty well
actually.  The only issue with that laptop is there was no actual
connection between the dedicated video (gtx860m) and the external video
ports.   Well - after looking and looking I found a dell precision 7720
with a quadro p4000.  It is a beast but has a 4k monitor and the quadro can
connect directly to the video ports..  So I can do..
http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/20190319_182509.jpg

short video explaining what/why I did it.  The wine solution isn't 100% yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oewzzB54MZk&t=

most of the time you have a 10 or 7 license with your laptop...  You can so
far install windows 10 with a win7 license...




On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 9:49 PM Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:

> On Friday 22 March 2019 18:46:41 Bruce Layne wrote:
>
> > Being an unrepentant capitalist, I must admit that commercial software
> > has much to recommend it.  There is money to pay programmers to
> > develop stable and feature rich software, and market forces keep the
> > product customer focused so the market gets the features that
> > customers want. When Fusion 360 launched, I signed up on the AutoDesk
> > forum to ask for a native Linux version.  The AutoDesk administrator
> > told me that despite not being too much effort given the cross
> > platform development tools they use to make the Windows and Mac
> > version, there would never be a Linux version because Linux users
> > won't pay for software.  That was an odd thing to tell me, given that
> > I had long ago paid $1250 for Eagle electronic CAD software,
> > specifically because they offered a very good native Linux version,
> > and I paid annual maintenance fees for years after the initial
> > "purchase."  Do we ever really own software?
> >
> > I wasn't impressed with the AutoDesk attitude, which was slightly less
> > offensive than Microsoft's "Linux is cancer" public statement on open
> > source software.
> >
> > Part of me was relieved.  Even though I wouldn't have the advantage of
> > the rich features and rising industry standard that Fusion 360
> > represented, I wouldn't be setting myself up for another proprietary
> > software ambush.  AutoDesk had done that to me before.  They sold me
> > on AutoSketch which, as an electrical engineer was all of the
> > mechanical CAD software I'd need.  Then they discontinued AutoSketch
> > at the moment that I learned enough to be productive and unilaterally
> > converted my license to an AutoCAD Lite license.  AutoCAD Lite
> > required a completely new learning curve, so I was forced to start
> > over.  They charged me the higher AutoCAD Lite maintenance fees while
> > constantly nagging me to upgrade to the complicated and expensive full
> > blown AutoCAD that I didn't want or need.  None of the drawings that I
> > created in AutoSketch could be used.  There was no import or
> > conversion to AutoCAD Lite.  The hundreds of hours I spent in
> > AutoSketch was a completely wasted effort. I got the impression that
> > AutoDesk viewed their entry level products as marketing tools to hook
> > new users so they could be up sold on their more expensive CAD
> > software.  It was a marketing approach that was not customer oriented.
> >
> > At the time, AutoCAD was still a 2D CAD package, but they had tacked
> > on some kludge 3D features.  Meanwhile, smaller and leaner software
> > companies had introduced true 3D CAD.  Many still exist but SolidWorks
> > emerged as the big winner.  AutoDesk was suddenly at the back of the
> > pack and disappeared in the rear view mirror for a few years.  Fusion
> > 360 is their attempt to recapture the market they lost through
> > complacency.  I can't help but feel that once AutoDesk has herded the
> > majority of the CAD market back into a near AutoDesk monopoly, they'll
> > start putting the screws to the users again.
> >
> > I have no interest in AutoDesk's proprietary Fusion 360 file format
> > that uses the files that I create to hold me hostage.  I have even
> > less interest in sharing my data on their cloud.
> >
> > I use FreeCAD, mostly for 3D printing.  It's still not ready for prime
> > time and doesn't have a usable CAM system so it's not a possible
> > replacement for Fusion 360, but it's a viable CAD option for me when
> > Fusion 360 isn't.
> >
> > If there was no FreeCAD, I'd use OpenSCAD long before I'd use Fusion
> > 360.  Free Open Source Software for the win.  I wish there was some
> > effective method to leverage the advantages of commercial software and
> > FOSS.  I'd like to be able to pool my financial donations with those
> > of other users to encourage open source software developers to
> > implement new features.
>
> We freebies need a lot more of that attitude. Sure, free is nice but one
> should never forget TANSTAAFL. AKA somebody has to buy lunch.  Or a
> bunch of somebody's take up a collection to make the coders mortgage
> payments.  Can it be made to work? Maybe, but its us that have to change
> our attitude to make it work.
> >
> > On 3/22/2019 5:14 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote:
> > > Anyone on here have opinions on Fusion 360 Cad/Cam by Autodesk?
> > >
> > > Using  ShopCam for simple 2.5D work, VisualCam for 3 or more axis
> > > work, using Alibre Cad for 3D Drwaing and creation as well as
> > > ProgeCad for 2D Drawings.
> > >
> > > With this combo there is not much we can't handle but maintenance
> > > agreements
> > > and updates do get cumbersome.
> > >
> > >
> > > I am worried about moving to the cloud based system but I guess it's
> > > the future.
> > >
> > >
> > > What are this groups thoughts if any?
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeff Johnson
> > >
> > > john...@superiorroll.com
> > >
> > > Superior Roll & Turning
> > >
> > > 734-279-1831
> > >
> >
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