Anno domini 2021 Tue, 29 Jun 22:53:12 +0200 Valerio Bellizzomi scripsit: > On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 14:32 -0600, R C wrote: > > On 6/29/21 2:21 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > > On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 13:42 -0600, R C wrote: > > > > On 6/29/21 11:09 AM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > > > > The whole purpose of a CoC is telling people how to behave with > > > > > respect > > > > > to each other. Basically you are free to think as you will > > > > > provided > > > > > that you act as the CoC says. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > and that is why it is inappropriate, and useless, there is no way > > > > you > > > > can predict how/what offends people (and nowadays. Creating > > > > rules > > > > for > > > > what/how/when and to whom what can be said, well, there are > > > > countries > > > > where you can happily follow those rules. > > > > > > This is what I think: > > > > > > The point of a CoC is to tell people that the expected behavior is > > > to > > > act kindly with respect to each other, and the CoC must foresee and > > > provide means to resolve any controvercies that may arise, and do > > > this > > > kindly as much as possible in order to reestablish the community > > > aggregation and mutual respect. > > > > right, most normal/decent people know that is expected behavior, so > > it > > is pointless to re-iterate, and mosyly turns into something > > manipulative. > > > > > I don't understand why there is so much friction on adopting a CoC, > > > the > > > vast majority of open source projects around the world has a CoC > > > which > > > is created, reviewed and accepted by community members. > > > > Because it is pointless. There still has not been given an urgent > > reason for doing this kinda left-ish thing. > > > > > > I make a point of that all the time, also at work, where they have > > several of these things. > > > > > > Reason? Oh an upper management person once said it was needed > > "because > > everyone deserves to be respected, and by the end of the day can go > > home > > being happy they accomplished something" > > > > I questioned him "Why?" .. except for a lot of "uh"-s no real > > answer. > > Of course not, because there are no reasons to do that.. it's > > management porn. > > > > > > > The only point I can make is that we need a community revision and > > > voting of the CoC. > > > > why? seriously, make a pressing point of why. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Ron > > > I cannot comment on what you do at work. However this is how things > work in a human society, we need to state very clearly what are the > leadership actions to do in case controvercies need to be resolved, and > state what is expected behavior and unacceptable behavior from > community members, so that everybody knows that staying in the > community involves some kind of mental and behavioral engagement. This > is necessary to avoid irrimediable conflicts that can lead to > destruction of the community. > > I'm happy to see that LinuxCNC community has survived so long without a > CoC. That said every community needs a CoC mostly as an assurance to > external people that they can join the community without fear.
Sorry, but this total bs. I would suggest that all people voting for CoC make a mailinglist "emc-users-...@lists.sourceforge.net" or better "coc-ems-us...@lists.sourceforge.net" 'cause CoC is more important than LinuxCNC and users (who need users when we are the management?) Nik > > Regards > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
